who leaves a bike in one spot for over a month?

don't think twice about it and just take it. no one will care. the universe has no morality. a bike is meant to be ridden, let it bring joy to someone who will take care of it.

Oh man, are you and the OP related?

Please explain how it is obvious that the person is not coming back. Please oh please explain. Do you know the person? Do you have the complete back story? Were you the one who locked it up?

Please. It's not about being self righteous it's just about being a decent human being. I don't go around thinking I should take that care that's sitting on bricks missing it's rims. Just walk away. You don't know the story behind the bike and frankly it's none of your concern. If you wanted to get involved notify the cops.

I know! And your someone's special little turd! See how that works?

I'm also guessing you think that everyone below a certain class is beneath you, and that everyone is guilty until proven innocent. But there you go again making presumptions about other people that are supported only by supposition. It kinda sounds like you're the one who got their feelings hurt?

wanna band-aid for your owweee?

*edit* - wow, you've got me doing it to now! way to go Zima!

Yeah I know the person, and they bought a dime-a-dozen trendy bike in the height of a trend and have already stopped giving a ****.

Decent human being? You're not hurting anyone, you're taking an abandoned frame.

one of the best things I have read in this thread is that if you have to think about it, it's probably wrong. I have stolen things before and I justified it to myself but felt bad about it later. Now-a-days, if I find myself questioning whether something is right or wrong, I just don't do it. Trust your gut. Great advice. Unless you are a sociopath, I guess.

Again assumptions assumptions. You assume it's abandoned and you've assumed the owner has no interest in it and is not coming back. Thank you for proving my point.

+1

If you have to ponder it and post on a forum for approval it's prob not worth doing.

I could easily think of several scenarios, not to mention the ones already named, where someone might leave a bike locked up for several weeks/months.

In the front of my apartment complex there was a mountain bike locked up to the stair railing for 6 months, but a few weeks ago I saw a girl unlock it and take it out to the park. I don't know why it went unridden for so long, but suffice it to say it would have been wrong for me to take it.

but shouldn't you be thinking about everything you do, right or wrong? saying that just because you have to think about it makes it wrong is one of the biggest fallacies put forth so far.

I think what they mean is if you doubt the ethicality of what you are doing, there is a good chance that what you are doing is unethical.

Thinking about, maybe. Questioning to the point of getting people's advice on a public forum, no.

Just like your mom!


ZING!!! :D

Oh I wholeheartedly agree. Think before you act and make an educated decision. Life lessons you learn when you're a kid doing stupid things. Obviously you're not going to apply these to the very basic decisions in life, but I would hope most people would think before acting when taking property that is not theirs and there is no 100% sign showing that the bike is free for the taking. I have no problem taking a bike out of a dumpster/trash after asking the nearby neighbors. However, taking a bike that was locked up just because some villains got to it first and it's been sitting there for a arbitrary amount of days is not on my to do list.

Thinking about something doesn't make it wrong, but if you have to think long and hard, post on a forum, seek approval from others, that may or may not be a sign pointing you in the direction of "just walk away".

You are well on your way to being one of my wife's clients. If it aint yours, it aint yours to ride.

Wow, now you've gone to making up ridiculous stuff out of whole cloth! Way to go 'it's human nature so take it' fella! :beer::beer::beer:

considering that's what you've done in your past 4-5 posts in regards to me, I'm just trying to catch up. I suppose if I kill an ant or place a mousetrap out, it's only a matter of time until I kill a person too. Way to be smug and superior over EVERYONE! Goodjob:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: I guess when you're always right, it's hard to come down from your pedestal, eh?

I live in Tokyo of all places and I constantly see very nice and expensive things being totally abused and misused and free locked for Chr!st's sake. The cyclist in me says "Liberate those pure parts from those jack@sses, give 'em a good home." The Chicagoan in me says "F' that sell that ***** on craigslist." The sensible side of me says, "Stop and take a pic for some Jack@ss thread on the internet." OP, honestly, do what you want. In my opinion, common sense says leave it alone. But if you do perceive it to be abandoned or justify taking it. Just remember that there are consequences. Just like when we do anything wrong or right, understand that there are always consequences. Whether good or bad and if you feel that you can accept those consequences, do what you want. This isn't rocket science. Just think, if your GF comes home one night a literal bloody mess because the bike you decided to liberate was recognized by the owner and assumed that your GF was the thief and "justifiably" beat the crap out of her and called the police. Is this an acceptable consequence? It could be, especially if you guys have a nasty breakup beforehand because she was justifiably running around and several guys decided to liberate what was not being properly used;)

if the OP can afford a girlfriend, he can afford to buy a Pista, not steal it...

but who would want a Pista anyway?

OP is a troll.

I relate to the OP, I at any given time am monitoring the decay of several bikes nicer than my own in my neighborhood... I have seen ******bags twice looting bikes in the middle of the day for specific parts. I got the idea that they, like me had known just how long they had been sitting there to die before they came to "harvest" the parts.

Even when I was riding a much crappier bike, I could not bring myself to do it. Karma is real.

You are an idiot. Obviously the owner doesn't want his bike stolen if he locked it with a Kryptonite NY lock.

On an environmental note, if you take the frame rather than buying a new one, you are helping to reduce the amount of "trash" going to the landfill, right?

Reduce, reuse, recycle.

The owner was most likely murdered anyway.

Murder, obviously. :)