Sugino 75 stripped...
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Sugino 75 stripped...
I raced an alley cat in a downpour on Sunday.
Went in to service my BB and the puller yanked all of the extraction threads on the drive side. I'm super bummed, as I bought these cranks 4 weeks ago. I'm almost wondering if I may be able to figure out some kind of warranty deal with these, but it's unlikely.
So I'm needing a new drive side crankarm, 165mm, silver. If anyone has a lonely drive side, PM me.
Went in to service my BB and the puller yanked all of the extraction threads on the drive side. I'm super bummed, as I bought these cranks 4 weeks ago. I'm almost wondering if I may be able to figure out some kind of warranty deal with these, but it's unlikely.
So I'm needing a new drive side crankarm, 165mm, silver. If anyone has a lonely drive side, PM me.
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Using park ccp-2, the threads literally pulled out with the puller.
So, I had the puller threaded in, and when I was backing it out to pull the crankarm, the puller walked out with the extraction threads. I've never done this to a crank arm before and it makes me question the quality of this set.
So, I had the puller threaded in, and when I was backing it out to pull the crankarm, the puller walked out with the extraction threads. I've never done this to a crank arm before and it makes me question the quality of this set.
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ride it around without the crankarm bolt in it.
it will eventually loosen.
also, park makes a tool specifically for this (stripped crankarm threads.)
the tool looks like a hex nut with threads and threads into the crankarm while recutting the threads.
i know a certain shop in the dallas suburbs that has this exact tool.
it's in a part of town east of downtown dallas that's known for the rock wall.
it will eventually loosen.
also, park makes a tool specifically for this (stripped crankarm threads.)
the tool looks like a hex nut with threads and threads into the crankarm while recutting the threads.
i know a certain shop in the dallas suburbs that has this exact tool.
it's in a part of town east of downtown dallas that's known for the rock wall.
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That had to be cross-threaded, or not threaded in all the way or something right?
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On my old crank set I partially stripped the threads because I didn't get the crank puller snuggly in there before I tried to extract it. Maybe you did the same?
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Some possible options for you:
If the threads aren't *totally* gone, you may be able to chase them out and get the extractor to work:
https://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...item_id=BR-TC8

Otherwise, there are tools to cut new threads at a slightly larger diameter, but they're expensive for a one-off job. Perhaps an LBS already has them:
https://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg..._id=VR-PE11000

https://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...item_id=SN-CES
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Hey mr. robot,
what is said name of the elusive shop near the rock wall, is it rockwall cycling?
And no, the threads weren't crossed. The tool threaded in smoothly; it was the action of the puller pushing against the spindle that caused the crank arm to barf it's extraction threads. Basically, the puller walked out and the threads sprung off it in a bunch of coiled metal.
This isn't my first time using a crank arm puller on a ST crankset, I pulled the washer before I put in the puller.
John, thanks for the tool advice; I'll see if my LBS carries any of that.
what is said name of the elusive shop near the rock wall, is it rockwall cycling?
And no, the threads weren't crossed. The tool threaded in smoothly; it was the action of the puller pushing against the spindle that caused the crank arm to barf it's extraction threads. Basically, the puller walked out and the threads sprung off it in a bunch of coiled metal.
This isn't my first time using a crank arm puller on a ST crankset, I pulled the washer before I put in the puller.
John, thanks for the tool advice; I'll see if my LBS carries any of that.
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Yeah sorry not trying to imply you're incompetent or anything, this is just completely unexpected. I've stripped threads on a crankarm before, but only when I didn't thread the puller in far enough or crossthreaded.
Crazy.
Crazy.
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You could probably flush/clean it from the non-drive side, will be a PITA, but doable.
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Ugh I know dude.
I'm so sick by this.
$200 set of cranks down the damn drain.
ianjk, I thought ab just removing the non drive arm and the adjustable cup, and using my 36mm headset wrench on the drive side cup and pulling it all out as a unit. It could work, but aside from that, I'm just wishing the equipment would hold up for simple maintenance like this in the first place.
I'm so sick by this.
$200 set of cranks down the damn drain.
ianjk, I thought ab just removing the non drive arm and the adjustable cup, and using my 36mm headset wrench on the drive side cup and pulling it all out as a unit. It could work, but aside from that, I'm just wishing the equipment would hold up for simple maintenance like this in the first place.
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And no, the threads weren't crossed. The tool threaded in smoothly; it was the action of the puller pushing against the spindle that caused the crank arm to barf it's extraction threads. Basically, the puller walked out and the threads sprung off it in a bunch of coiled metal.
This isn't my first time using a crank arm puller on a ST crankset, I pulled the washer before I put in the puller.
This isn't my first time using a crank arm puller on a ST crankset, I pulled the washer before I put in the puller.
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I did this once. It was my mistake because I didn't thread the puller in all the way. Did you thread the puller in all the way? You can tell if this is the case because if you did, then all of the threads will be destroyed.
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This was already asked and answered man. Looks like he just got boned on some bad cranks.
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Did you grease up the threads? You gotta grease those threads and then thread the crank puller in deep before you start to torque it. I have stripped those threads before, luckily it wasn't on a $300 crank.
Anyways, crank pullers suck. I hate using them.
I have a complete set of silver Sugino 75 cranks if you have a nice, black crankset for trade??
Also, I agree it can be very dangerous to ride around waiting for it to loosen. I rounded out the inside of my crankarm taper doing that. I don't think there's really another way to get it off, though. The good news is that you will round out the inside of the crank arm LONG BEFORE you round out your BB spindle. So, if that crank arm is already toast, then it might not be that bad. Just make sure you're running a brake.
Anyways, crank pullers suck. I hate using them.
I have a complete set of silver Sugino 75 cranks if you have a nice, black crankset for trade??
Also, I agree it can be very dangerous to ride around waiting for it to loosen. I rounded out the inside of my crankarm taper doing that. I don't think there's really another way to get it off, though. The good news is that you will round out the inside of the crank arm LONG BEFORE you round out your BB spindle. So, if that crank arm is already toast, then it might not be that bad. Just make sure you're running a brake.
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this makes more sense if the bb spindle wasn't greased before installation, and if the crank arm was drastically overtightened... but still... stripping out all of the threads from a new crankarm from a reputable company seems a bit unlikely without some other factors involved. crank pullers are some of the easiest tools to use. not ragging on you man, but this is just an unlikely thing to happen if you're doing things right.
there are obviously defective parts here and there as well. sorry to hear about this.
there are obviously defective parts here and there as well. sorry to hear about this.
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I'd definitely check into the repair system JohnDThompson mentioned. Even if you can't find a shop nearby with the tool, it may well be cost-effective to send the arm to a shop that does. If I'm understanding correctly, the plug installed after re-tapping would accommodate a regular extractor, so this one-time fix would put the arm back in service without having to replace the whole thing.
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Right, but right now I'm thinking about how to pull the crankarm off without destroying it if I need to ship it off somewhere. I'm thinking about using a ball joint fork or perhaps an adjustable 3 arm harmonic balancer puller.
I use a light layer of phil grease on the taper before installation; I also lightly greased the puller. It yanked the threads out from the very bottom, so if you feel the inside of the arm where the extraction threads are, it's totally smooth.
Completely understandable that there's some skeptics out there, but I've removed and installed dozens of SqT cranks in my days. Again, I was surprised by how easily the things let loose. It was like pulling a cork out of a wine bottle.
Pedalling, let me know if you want to sell your set. Unfortunately I don't have any other spare square tapers lying around to fit an ISO, let alone any in black.
I use a light layer of phil grease on the taper before installation; I also lightly greased the puller. It yanked the threads out from the very bottom, so if you feel the inside of the arm where the extraction threads are, it's totally smooth.
Completely understandable that there's some skeptics out there, but I've removed and installed dozens of SqT cranks in my days. Again, I was surprised by how easily the things let loose. It was like pulling a cork out of a wine bottle.
Pedalling, let me know if you want to sell your set. Unfortunately I don't have any other spare square tapers lying around to fit an ISO, let alone any in black.



