Roadie tendencies
06-28-10 | 09:07 AM
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06-28-10 | 09:09 AM
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Oh, I should have been clear - I know that peloton just means pack and doesn't imply team effort. But, until you are a pro the word doesn't apply. "Mob" is a much more appropriate description for regular folk.
06-28-10 | 09:11 AM
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they do.
so would you tell a triathlete to stop banging on about aero kit because its a variable specific the only a handful of sports... no, you wouldn't, because you have a wierd obsession with triathletes being amazing. would you tell a footballer to stop going on about angles in a free kick because no one cares?? these people work hour after hour after hour to become the best they can be, so whats wrong with using some statistics to properly measure your efforts.
so would you tell a triathlete to stop banging on about aero kit because its a variable specific the only a handful of sports... no, you wouldn't, because you have a wierd obsession with triathletes being amazing. would you tell a footballer to stop going on about angles in a free kick because no one cares?? these people work hour after hour after hour to become the best they can be, so whats wrong with using some statistics to properly measure your efforts.
06-28-10 | 09:12 AM
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06-28-10 | 09:18 AM
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they do.
so would you tell a triathlete to stop banging on about aero kit because its a variable specific the only a handful of sports... no, you wouldn't, because you have a wierd obsession with triathletes being amazing. would you tell a footballer to stop going on about angles in a free kick because no one cares?? these people work hour after hour after hour to become the best they can be, so whats wrong with using some statistics to properly measure your efforts.
so would you tell a triathlete to stop banging on about aero kit because its a variable specific the only a handful of sports... no, you wouldn't, because you have a wierd obsession with triathletes being amazing. would you tell a footballer to stop going on about angles in a free kick because no one cares?? these people work hour after hour after hour to become the best they can be, so whats wrong with using some statistics to properly measure your efforts.
What's a free kick? Soccer right? My oldest daughter plays soccer. She's a goalie. I go to the games. I never have the slightest idea what's actually going on. I clap or complain when everyone else does. I also hand out water bottles. It's all good.
06-28-10 | 09:22 AM
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it is relatively simple. imagine trying to shepherd a bit of leather into an outdoor cupboard.
if you can't understand football how can you expect to understand how/why 'roadies' use statistics, maths and science to efficiently evaluate their individual efforts in training and in racing. you sound like you dont understand it all. so why blindly go against something you don't understand in the first place.
if you can't understand football how can you expect to understand how/why 'roadies' use statistics, maths and science to efficiently evaluate their individual efforts in training and in racing. you sound like you dont understand it all. so why blindly go against something you don't understand in the first place.
06-28-10 | 10:18 AM
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06-28-10 | 02:26 PM
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+ 50 
Originally, I was going to comment that I actually came from being a "roadie," although not from racing. I have all of the gear (lycra, clipless, computer, camelbak, etc.) from touring and then later picked up singlespeed for commuting, keeping the clipless pedals cuz it's what I've always ridden.
Instead,
Originally, I was going to comment that I actually came from being a "roadie," although not from racing. I have all of the gear (lycra, clipless, computer, camelbak, etc.) from touring and then later picked up singlespeed for commuting, keeping the clipless pedals cuz it's what I've always ridden.
Instead,
06-28-10 | 05:57 PM
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Posted by Twitter/pwnela earlier today:
Fellas, dudes aren't the only ones looking at you in lycra.
PHEW. Feeling a little flustered: https://cache.boston.com/universal/si...7_14/tdf16.jpg
06-29-10 | 05:46 AM
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PedallingATX,
Thank you. You did a very good job of making my point. I'll try not to drag this out.
We as cyclists are one of the most poorly mannered groups I have ever encountered. We suck at keeping ourselves in line. It's why I have such a disdain for roadies (as opposed to people who ride road bikes). You see, the only reason roadies behave the way they do is because we as cyclists permit it. If we called people on their crap then this issue would disappear. Roadies would have no one to act up in front of so their little "trip" would simply be over. They would be relegated to only hanging around others like them and that's a limited gene pool that dies. So, the next time you see a roadie being snotty, aloof, elitist or any of a hundred other things I say call him on it. Tell him it's unacceptable. Do not require him to leave but do require him to behave in an appropriate manner. Roadies are a minority group within our minority group. But, they are plentiful enough that every last one of us has met more than one. They act the way they do because we don't call them on it.
Need a comparison? Good. I have one. Triathletes. I know a number of these guys and gals. These people are completely off the deep end. They wear their HRM's at work. They train like animals. Their lives are being tri-people. They are also some of the kindest, most mild mannered, friendly, all-inclusive people I have ever met. I know tri people who you would look at and say "Yea, dude is bad to the bone". I know tri people who are fat senior citizens that picked up the bug last year. They are all welcome in the tri world. As are their friends and families. I see tri-people training in groups that the rear group is literally kids and non-tri spouses or designated "I'll watch the kids" tri-folk. When was the last time you seen a hard core road ride being caboosed by kids and non-hardcore cycling spouses? Tri's are never aloof, crappy or nasty. Their culture does not permit it. You behave yourself or you quickly find yourself feeling very alone among 35 people. I've watched it happen with my own eyes so I'm not just shooting off. These people have a very special place in my heart because they are both incredible athletes (regardless of current athletic status or prowess) and incredible human beings.
So, that's it. I make all the bold, admittedly big-brush statements to make a point. We as a group need to get it together. We need to be both great athletes and great human beings. We need to start with our own
Thank you. You did a very good job of making my point. I'll try not to drag this out.
We as cyclists are one of the most poorly mannered groups I have ever encountered. We suck at keeping ourselves in line. It's why I have such a disdain for roadies (as opposed to people who ride road bikes). You see, the only reason roadies behave the way they do is because we as cyclists permit it. If we called people on their crap then this issue would disappear. Roadies would have no one to act up in front of so their little "trip" would simply be over. They would be relegated to only hanging around others like them and that's a limited gene pool that dies. So, the next time you see a roadie being snotty, aloof, elitist or any of a hundred other things I say call him on it. Tell him it's unacceptable. Do not require him to leave but do require him to behave in an appropriate manner. Roadies are a minority group within our minority group. But, they are plentiful enough that every last one of us has met more than one. They act the way they do because we don't call them on it.
Need a comparison? Good. I have one. Triathletes. I know a number of these guys and gals. These people are completely off the deep end. They wear their HRM's at work. They train like animals. Their lives are being tri-people. They are also some of the kindest, most mild mannered, friendly, all-inclusive people I have ever met. I know tri people who you would look at and say "Yea, dude is bad to the bone". I know tri people who are fat senior citizens that picked up the bug last year. They are all welcome in the tri world. As are their friends and families. I see tri-people training in groups that the rear group is literally kids and non-tri spouses or designated "I'll watch the kids" tri-folk. When was the last time you seen a hard core road ride being caboosed by kids and non-hardcore cycling spouses? Tri's are never aloof, crappy or nasty. Their culture does not permit it. You behave yourself or you quickly find yourself feeling very alone among 35 people. I've watched it happen with my own eyes so I'm not just shooting off. These people have a very special place in my heart because they are both incredible athletes (regardless of current athletic status or prowess) and incredible human beings.
So, that's it. I make all the bold, admittedly big-brush statements to make a point. We as a group need to get it together. We need to be both great athletes and great human beings. We need to start with our own
My friends are shocked I would wear lycra and helmets and clipless pedals and have brakes, but when we ride, for all their talk of being awesome fast, I am always having to slow down or stop and wait for them to catch up...
Brain fart over.
06-29-10 | 06:15 AM
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I like to do long 100km rides fixed with no planning or what not. I just pick a place on the map about 50km away and ride. I like to get lost on the way and take wrong turns because I get to see all kinds of new places. I like getting home and seeing what route my iPhone GPS tracking software says I did.
My friends are shocked I would wear lycra and helmets and clipless pedals and have brakes, but when we ride, for all their talk of being awesome fast, I am always having to slow down or stop and wait for them to catch up...
Brain fart over.
My friends are shocked I would wear lycra and helmets and clipless pedals and have brakes, but when we ride, for all their talk of being awesome fast, I am always having to slow down or stop and wait for them to catch up...
Brain fart over.
I most enjoy distance on any platform. Right now, all I own is fixed. Those who know me say I'm acceptably fast on the flats if no one is in a particular hurry, climb better than my appearance or equipment would suggest and descend like a frightened 5 year old girl holding a puppy.
06-29-10 | 07:15 AM
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Well, it's official. BSNYC feels the same way I do. All apologies accepted (yuk yuk yuk)
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06-29-10 | 07:59 AM
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06-29-10 | 10:46 AM
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But what if you don't enjoy "joy," and you insist on applying the yardstick of self-delusion against even the simple act of recreation? Well, for these people, there is amateur road racing, a world in which even a Cat 4 cannot be coaxed onto a bicycle unless the effort it takes to propel that bicycle is measured with an electronic device so it can be downloaded later and compared to the effort expended on previous rides. This sort of behavior--the quantifying of our own fruitlessness--would appear to be the very pinnacle of self-delusion. It's like keeping a ************ journal in which you document the duration of your "sessions" and the volume of your "issue."
06-29-10 | 11:15 AM
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Well, it's official. BSNYC feels the same way I do. All apologies accepted (yuk yuk yuk)
https://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/
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And oldfixguy, people weren't disagreeing that biking should be fun as much as they were to your blanket statements that all roadies are jerks. BSNYC never said "all."
06-29-10 | 03:05 PM
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And oldfixguy, people weren't disagreeing that biking should be fun as much as they were to your blanket statements that all roadies are jerks. BSNYC never said "all."
And oldfixguy, people weren't disagreeing that biking should be fun as much as they were to your blanket statements that all roadies are jerks. BSNYC never said "all."
06-29-10 | 04:22 PM
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Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway? Our language is quirky at best.
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