How tall are you? I have a 55cm, I'm 5'9 and I ride a 56cm compact geo road bike, I always felt cramped up on the Leader....

im 6', rode a 58 with a 100mm stem, was probably just right

****. I'm 6' with a 55cm AND a 100mm stem. But, I do tend to ride smaller frames (I guess I just do). I had a frame with 56c-c and the stand over was not too great whenever I stopped, or mounted onto the bike. I'm riding a 53cm c-c semi-compact frame right now, and it's a little cramped, but, I like the ride. I'm running a 80mm stem on that.
tl;dr It'll work out, right?

worst case scenario you leave a tad more steerer tube on to avoid a big saddle to bar drop and may end up buying a longer stem. I think scrod is 5'11 or so and rode a 58 too :o

Should I exchange the frame then? I think it would be at least $50 to exchange, due to shipping...

unfortunately I don't think anyone here is going to be able to answer that question for you. I really think it will be manageable though

Thanks for the help. I think I am going to return the frame and exchange it for a 58cm size. I'd rather pay extra for a frame that will fit me well rather than building up something that I'm not super happy about. Just a delay on my summer project :/

aside from aesthetics, is there anything wrong with the 727 frame (compared to 725 for instance)? I have a steel Windsor and I am looking to build an aluminum bike. I like the 725 but I believe I need a 61 frame (im 6'4) and I only can find a 58.
Thanks, Great bikes in this thread btw.

Cheers,
Justin

If you need a 61 frame, don't deal with a frame you don't like the look of. It isn't that rare of a frame size.

+1 You'll end up buying another frame in two months.

I should have clarified. I like the way it looks, however, the few responses to the frame I have read have been it is undesirable looks. I just wanted to clarify that it is merely cosmetic reasons that people might not like it, not of any structural or any other type of issues.

Thank you for your response.
Cheers,
Justin

Also, can anyone comment on sizing, I have a 58 Windsor The Hour (which fits me very well) & a XL Giant TCX (which might be slightly too big for me) and I am trying to figure out what size frame to get.
Thanks,
Justin

i'm about the same height as you and ride a 61cm 722, assuming the frames are similar geometry i don't think you'll be comfortable on the 58

Yeah, it's ugly. That's a perfectly good reason not to buy one, IMO. And that's the reason there are so few responses, and the reason it's not being made anymore.

Yeah but he says he likes it, soooo... I don't know. Maybe Scrod can help him with this one.

You would be surprised at the compliments I got when I ride mine around town. People think it's custom! :lol:
Nonetheless the only reason I have it in the first place is because of the coghouse no reserve penny auctions for slightly blemished frames; I got it for less than $100 picked up. I would've not paid MSRP; which FYI was priced higher than the 725's.

Thanks, I've heard the BD bikes (windsor & mercier) run big so that might be why. Where in BK are you at?

I understand people don't like the style, but as the person quoted below specified, I am merely speaking about build quality. Thanks for your response though.
yes
Do you have any pictures of your ride?

Thanks guys,
Justin

http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/...g/IMG_2207.jpg

Steerer will be cut once I decide I like this position.

clean

Its awaiting S500 brake levers and brake, eventually its own wheelset, a 3T Dorico pro seatpost, and 3T ergonova handlebars to complete the 3T cockpit. but thats all I can think of that I want to change.

best. 722. ever.

best leader ever?

redhook, where are you?

in Manhattan near Columbus Circle. We should meet up one day for a ride if your down. I'll PM you.

Cheers,
Justin

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=256447http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=256448http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=256449Finally decided to put this up. HAHAHA thats a visp fork but im going to switch it out for I806A fork this week. Still saving up to switch crank and stem AND get some A23 when theyre back in stock.

current build in progress:
722ts
nashbar carbon fork & seat post
nashbar bullhorn
SRAM S300crank
cane creek headset

waiting for:
the saddle (went cheap and bought a nashbar GR2)
Wabi Wheelset
Deda bar tape


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