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Old 02-28-11 | 09:31 PM
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I just got a Sugino Maxy crankset off ebay. I want to use it on a conversion. The frame i'm using is a bianchi from the 80's. The crankset came with the original BB but the bike is threaded and sized for an italian BB. Velo Orange has italian BB's for 24 bucks in several sizes.
How do i know what length spindle i need? I assume 103mm but i want to be sure!
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What do you guys and girls think of the VO bottom brackets? Is there another italian BB that you would recomend?
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Old 02-28-11 | 10:26 PM
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Looks like the Maxy requires a BB spindle length of at least 121.

I've had the opportunity to play with the VO threadless bottom brackets; if they're any indication of the rest of their line they make a really nice product.

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Old 02-28-11 | 10:32 PM
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that wasn't helpful. does anyone use a sugino maxy double crankset? if so, what size spindle do you use? is your chainline straight? is there some sort of formula to figure out a spindle length. FYI, the sugino maxy i bought is old, from the 80's
 
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Old 02-28-11 | 10:35 PM
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Oh ****, i'm sorry, that was helpful. I thought it said something else completely. I'm so sorry Striknein! I kinda feel like an ass right now. 121 seems like it would put it out really far. Even 112 seems like too much
 
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Old 02-28-11 | 10:44 PM
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I edited about 45 seconds after I posted. I misread the original post while I was distracted and completely missed that you already had a crank picked out.

https://forums.travel.com/bicycles-te...atibility.html is my dubious source. And yes, it does seem long. Having never seen that crank, I have no idea how much meat is on the spider. *shrug*

Thing is, even if you get a spindle that's way long you can still make it work by using a spacer... you might screw up your q but at least you won't have wasted 50 bucks on a bottom bracket.
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Old 02-28-11 | 10:46 PM
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121mm is most likely the length for a the standard crankset, which is sort of long for a single-ringed crankset.

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ino-maxy-crank
Quick search of BF shows your Maxy COULD be ISO taper, which is the more Italian standard of tapers.

Do you have pictures of the your set of Maxy? I'd do a quick search on Velobase to see what shows up on there.
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Old 02-28-11 | 11:17 PM
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I've never been able to figure out how to post pics on here from my computer. Right now i can tell you that they are JIS, and they are designed for two chainrings. This crankset didn't come with the Bianchi, I got them off ebay. That being said, the whole ISO/Italian thing shouldn't apply, right? The type of interface, JIS or ISO, is a direct relation between the spindle and the crank, Right? If i figure out the spindle length and then put the wrong style on, it'll screw up my chainline by about a half cm in one direction or the other, right? I'll put pictures on photobucket tomorrow and post a link to that. Thanks
 
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Old 03-01-11 | 12:00 AM
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Putting an crank with an ISO interface on a JIS spindle could cause the crank to bottom out on the taper. If that happens, you won't be able to get the crank tight enough on the spindle to keep it from wobbling and ruining the crank. It's not likely to happen, but the only way to know for sure is to try it. As an alternative, consider punting the Maxy on ebay and purchasing a crank like the FSA gimondi.

It could be worse though. You could be building a French bike.
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Old 03-01-11 | 06:09 AM
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You could test fit it to a BB, measure the resulting chainline and the spindle length of the test BB and calculate a new spindle length to get the chainline you want.
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