Should I go with H+Son Archetypes or Velocity a23s for my next wheel build?

Archetypes

+1.

Welp

if you get anything get the zona

id only sell something as long as its not filling a specific job, i thought about selling my leader but ended up keeping it cuz its my ssfg fast bike. if i had another one i probably would have

ya archetypes

A23's "Support America, be an American."

Archetypes are a better rim.

Since Velocity moved their production to the US, quality has been inconsistent at best. Go figure.

I guess archetypes are purrty too :) I'll probably just go with them.

Buy this sick Colnago. http://www.ebay.com/itm/221266379114...84.m1438.l2649

Turn it into a single speed with CK hubs??

Yes to the buying, but if it was me, I would turn it into a sweet road bike :thumb:.

Obviously I would, but the parts bin just doesn't warrant the road bike build. Unless you think Sora STIs, Tektro brakes, an FSA 46/36 CX crank, and Tiagra mechs befit that Colnago?

I have a great pair of green CK hubs with the single speed rear hub which are now freely available after crashing my single speed tourer and damaging the frame.

So basically I'm looking for a frame to go on my sick wheels.

Kilo TT need not apply.

Buy a Velocity Fusion Clincher rim with Sapim Laser Double butted spokes and lace it up to the hub I have for 110? Or do you guys have any other recommendations for a rear wheel. Only nmsw and preferably black with a 32 hole drill pattern.

OMG yes that would be so punk.

Archetype, but it might look odd without a matching set.

tb14's.... so sexy

Ill look into the archetype but I was interested in the pro fusion because its a cross between an aerohead and a deep v and I have an aerohead in the front.

You could get an A23 but the fusion is a good rim.

I want to get a shorter stem for my Kilo TT...which of these looks best?


Bontrager SSR - $25
http://www.idahomountaintouring.com/...m-179439-1.htm

Giant - $25
http://www.idahomountaintouring.com/...m-184507-1.htm

VO - $35 + $10 for shipping
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...0-17-rise.html

The stock stem is silver, and the VO is the only silver of the 3..but my bike is black, so a black stem wouldn't look weird.

Get the VO. They're sexy.

Couple of things to consider, what color is your seatpost? How much angle do you want?

The VO is sweet looking, but at +/-17*, that's going to be a helluva bend either down or up.

Also, I think the bontrager has an ugly weld on it, all things considered.

The seat post is silver, so yeah, good point. Also, I agree about the weld.

I want to be more upright and relaxed, so that's why I was initially eyeing the 17 deg angle, but I could probably get where I want to be as far as position on the bike with the 6 deg (which is what the Kilo stem is) and a shorter stem.

It's all about what works best for you, just noticed the other ones weren't as extreme and didn't know if you picked it on purpose or not.

Also, make sure you get the right size for your handlebars. I had that problem when I was looking, kept finding good deals but the size was always wrong.

Measured the head tube, 1 1/8

should i buy an alpine carbon fork and cane creek for my pake if this local guy still has them?

this is what i measured http://imageshack.us/a/img138/2257/h3ps.jpg