I agree when you're in the aero position, but when you're climbing, the inward sweep makes the handling up a tough hill really sketchy.

It's like climbing in the hoods if the hoods were pushed inward...

i think just being too narrow is the issue not the inward angling. a wider inward bar wouldnt be sketch.

This could be true, but only to compensate for the inward angle.

It'd be fitting a handlebar by it's tip, rather than its base.

(giggity)

I creamed.

just showing up to the track with one of those phm9's instantly makes your opponents 12% slower. it's that intimidating.

i think i want a makino. or gan well? i don't know. if i don't get a custom i'll get one of those two.

I want to build a phm9...

...with a rear b43, an aerospoke up front, risers+ourys, bmx pedals+holdfasts, and (wait for it) a TRICK FORK.

you forgot about adding basket risers.

I know, that trend was totally before me

By the way, does anyone know of any basket riser that will barspin?

Zipp 404 clincher powertap wheelset wireless for $900?

I would... if you don't have anything you need 900 bucks for...

Unless you can absolutely without a doubt pay for it (with some $$$ left over) then no.

no, get a quarq crank.

I have the money (tax return). Is it a good enough deal to force me to get it without any real need for it?

Close enough?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lS3frAkkYW...KDH_ANCHOR.jpg

I got some more details:

Powertap Elite+ hub laced to Zipp 404 clincher wheelset

- Used for racing only, 2 seasons
- Includes CPU, docking station, and HR monitor
- Less than 2000 miles
- $900

I dunno. Clinchers seem nice... if you have the money and you really want them then go for it.

Wteff am I gonna use them for. Wall art?

I feel like... if I don't end up using them I can just resell them for what I paid? I don't know anything about Zipp/Powertap resale cuz I always thought they'd be way too expensive for me to even consider.

used? see if he'll do $800, if you ask, he might say no, and counter offer 850... do it.

Really? $900 isn't a good enough deal?

yeah, but 800 is better...

My buddy is willing to buy the rear PowerTap hub and computer for me and split the costs. I guess that works out cuz I don't even care about power and whatever else the PowerTap spits out. PowerTap seems pretty steezy, but I don't see myself EVER using it.

We didn't talk about pricing specifics, but I think it'd come out to $450 for a front Zipp and a rear rim. I'd need to get a new hub, spokes and wheel build labor.

listen to yourself. no.

I'm with adriano. Think about it--not a good place for your money.

Toyo Godzilla vs. Rush Hour Pro

To be used as a street/road and entry level track bike. Leaning towards Godzilla. Mainly because of name.

edit: Maybe even Gazetta w/alpina fork. I like steel. A lot. I've heard good things about Columbus steel.