Thanks. I was looking at the Wabi rims as recommended to me in another thread. I would like to keep the price under $350 for a pair (built as I have no experience building wheels) while keeping the weight down, anything in black or silver (or combo).

I want to see them get 3 up, and then swept. The look on his face will be even better.

If you get all silver. KinLin XR-270's laced to novatec's with 64 sapim lasers, and veloplugs, will run you like $375 shipped and built from RG.

They would be like 1600 grams without rubber.

sorry to drag this conversation on in this thread but, wouldnt that require me to build it myself or does RetroGression build wheels as well? Im trying to get the lightest possible wheelset under $350 (could do 400 if worth while) that is already built *not by me*

Thanks again for your advice, it is much appreciated.

Yeah, these are built for under 400. They're closer to 300 if you wanted to build them yourself. You could shave off another 100+ grams using XR-200's, and a lower spoke count, but seeing as you bought a 61cm frame, I assume your're a pretty big guy, so I recommended 270's(little beefier), and 32 spoke front and rear.

One note, you'll have to wait a couple weeks for scrod to order the novatec hubs.

Alright, I'll shoot him an email for more specifics. Thanks again for the information.
I'm a big, but light guy. I am 6'4 & weigh 185 (been around that weight for 5 years so I dont plan on getting much heavier).

Don't try the XR200's. You will break them even at 185lbs.

Yeah, I'm 6' 180, and I wouldn't trust 32h XR-200's for riding city streets.

Go with the 270's.

FWIW 32h XR300's to Novatecs with Lasers should be around 1750g.

wouldn't it be financially wiser to opt for the wabi's at that point? they are 1750 and only $170

Sure? They are pretty different wheelsets. I think it's unfair to judge a wheelset based solely on its weight/price ratio.

I got mine for free, so I am a little biased.

fair enough, I need to do more research & reading. thanks

i actually came here with a should i question, cuz the da vs s75 vs campy cranks go round in the "what didya just buy" thread thew my own crankset buying plans off-kilter, but considering...

i guess right now all i wanna say is...




GO HEAT!!!

Borrowed the wheel set from my Kagero to test my newly built 722.

Planning on going with a Sun CR18 wheel set from velomine with 32C Pasela Tourguards.

Should I get silver rims and hubs, or black rims and hubs? The wheels will have silver spokes either way.

Black looks good. If you went silver, I think the chrome accents from the crank/fork/chain would stop looking like accents, and it would just look mixed up.

I'm about to get rid of my cheapo kalloy post but i've been conflicted for the longest time. Should I get a silver post or another black one? Sorry for the crappy pic.

Black, everything else is black. The silver seat collar brings out enough silver so that the cranks don't look bad.

Gotta keep the black/silver balance.

Sick cat butt, bro.

I know those wheels are just temporary but your axle definitely needs to be in the dropout a little bit more. Black wheels look good. Black rims with gumwalls FTW.

silver rims/hubs IMO

If he had a silver stem, bars & seatpost, yes. Considering he does not...

It's mainly the black hubs w/ silver spokes combination. IMO, it just looks cheap and more pronounced coupled with the chrome fork. I'm all for black wheels and gumwalls, if they had a black rim/silver hub prebuilt set, I would've gotten those instead of the full silver set.

because you have so much black, I'd get the black rims and hubs. the silver spokes should be enough to balance it. perfect world would be silver hubs and black rims

That's racist

Thanks guys. Going to go with black rims/hubs. Hopefully the silver spokes tie it all together alright. I'd love to get black rims with silver spokes and silver hubs, I don't think I'm going to find a reasonably priced prebuilt set though.

@Scrod re:dropouts, I won't be running it like that, I just wanted to see it for visual reference and couldn't stand the idea of a saggy chain. I'll be running an 18T or 19T cog on the final setup so it'll be further forward and I'll shorten the chain if necessary.

I've been itching for some gears for a bit, what do you guys think... The asking price is $600

Vintage Columbus steel Colnago. Red and chrome. Paint is chipped, and the Columbus decal is squished. Colnago decals look ok. Stamped Colnago on both chainstays, I believe this dates the frame to the early eighties. Mix of components. Campy seat post and rear hub. Shimano 600 crank, brakes and Dura Ace rear der. Braze on Campy front der. Front wheel is generic alloy. Unknown bb and hs. Needs gum hoods and bar tape. Tires are recent Specialized armadillo. Turbo saddle.
This bike is a great restoration candidate.