I assume you'd have to have a ton of seat post, so that it could extend down into that seat tube a few inches past those bolts. I wonder if the failures, were people using short posts, extended too far.

Nope. It's just a crappy design.

Literally every single one we sold broke like the one pictured.

It's a crappy design because it can fail if installed incorrectly?

Where are you getting that from what I've said in this thread?

Man, that is insane.

What's even more insane is that one pictured has less than 20 miles on it! :eek:

I'd be super pissed. Funny how that guy had to come in here and boss people about ****, instead of just admitting the design sucked. Admitting it would have given mega nice guy/integrity points.

Seems like those "notches" are just cut too deep and too many.

And here about a year back I almost bought a Leader frame....

I think this has been the only frame with this kind of issue as far as i know.

I've got two of them, a 721 and a Cretin, and they're fine. It's just the 2015 725 and 735 that are the problem. Anyways, the point that Scrod is making is that it's the Leader owner's attitude that's the problem here, not the design flaw. Apparently, there is a 2mm nylon washer fix that Leader claims is effective, but Scrod thinks is bs that is the problem. In any case, I can completely understand why Scrod won't sell them anymore, even with a supposed fix.

Is the seat tube one solid piece all the way down to the bottom bracket, or is the seat clamp assembly (as we'll call it) welded to the top tube and seat tube in a sort of three way weld orgy?

Also wondering if the seat tube has a giant hole cutout where the top tube comes in?

The seat tube is one piece and yes, there is a round hole inside where the top tube joins to the seat tube.

I've been following this conversation and have a question. This nylon washer thingy that you mentioned. How was that (claimed) supposed to remedy the problem? I'm just curious because it sounds suspect to me, and I'm guessing the answer might be entertaining.

thank you!

if I had to guess, and I don't, but I am, I'm guessing it keeps the clamp from closing too much

It fits in your butthole to keep it from puckering too much when your seatpost suddenly slips down.

So it's not actually a remedy then, just a band-aid********************?


My butthole puckers just thinking about a seatpost failure.

Scrod, that giant, magical jalapeño comes with free shipping, right?

This!

It does!

butthole aka prison wallet.

Haven't that one in a while. The hits just keep on coming in this thread!!


Seriously, I've been wanting to do a build on a Leader frame for a while but I have one project that has been waiting three years to finish. Just got my parts from Retro yesterday. Hope to get it up and going by Sunday.

I've seen a 2 735's with same issue in dublin. Leader need to mea culpa the **** up.
Do feel like I need to give a shout out for the 722 heritage lo. Absolute beast for the price. Fast, stiff and responsive. 0 toe overlap even with 175mm cranks

I clicked on the last post, scrolled up, and thought you were talking about the pepper...

Any recommendation for IRD Satin Stem?
 

Hi Scrod.

Saw a link you posted for IRD stems earlier in the thread. Can't seem to find any reviews online for the satin threadless. Don't really have the cash to fork out for a nitto u-22. Do you know if they're any good?

Thanks

Slim

I don't think he'd sell it if it weren't any good.

^true. trust the Scrod stamp of approval.

Also, my Cretin came in yesterday, and it's pretty awesome.

Admittedly there are a lot of us "Scrod fanboys" here, but there are many good reasons for that and he has earned our trust.

Not a fan boy. Just an observation.

The comment wasn't directed at you, just pointing out that even though Scrod has a substantial following here, he has earned his chops.