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#8451
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Hey, Scrod. When I got my Nitto B260-AA riser bars, I realized that they are 24mm diameter at the ends, instead of 22.2mm that I was expecting. I also got some Oury grips that I've used many times previously on 22.2mm bars, but I've never tried to install them on 24mm bars. Can the Oury grips be installed on 24mm bars, or should I find something different, and if so what should I use instead ?
About the grips, Ourys will stretch to 24mm without any trouble.
#8452
Uninformed Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2010
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From: Union County, NJ
Bikes: Dolan Pre Cursa, Cannondale R400
Aside from something custom, is Phil Wood the only manufacturer of low flange rear track hubs in black? My poor Internet search skills haven't brought up much else, figured you've maybe seen another, possibly more economic, solution out there.
#8453
Veteran Racer


Joined: Jul 2009
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From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 80 wheels
Sorry we didn't catch that you ordered Nitto risers and a Dirt harry lever. When people order a combination of stuff that isn't compatible, we will usually send an e-mail. Feel free to send back the lever for a refund if you're not going to use it.
About the grips, Ourys will stretch to 24mm without any trouble.
About the grips, Ourys will stretch to 24mm without any trouble.
#8454
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2014
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Bikes: raleigh rush hour
so it is most likely the shop who put them together to blame? seeing as i havent touched either of the hubs cogs or lock rings in installation?
#8455
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
You do know that when installing a new cog and lockring you should re-check it after the first couple of rides, right?
In my opinion, everyone riding fixed should at least own a chainwhip, lockring tool and know how to use them.
In my opinion, everyone riding fixed should at least own a chainwhip, lockring tool and know how to use them.
Last edited by Scrodzilla; 04-15-14 at 11:55 AM.
#8456
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Mack and Victoire make low-flange rear track hubs too (but neither one will cost less than a Phil).
#8457
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From: Roanoke, Va
Bikes: 2013 leader 721. 2015 leader 725. 2012 fuji feather
And, as scrod says, you're gonna need to check it after the first couple of rides, my first bike had a bit of slippage after a few rides, and it can lead to a crash.
#8458
Ok Scrod, here's one for you:
A while ago my grandfather passed and left each of his grandkids an inheritance. I'd like to use some of that to get something for my bike in his memory. Something classy, possibly vintage or at least evocative of an earlier time. Last year I got a Brooks Swift (in antique brown) from your online shop and have really been enjoying that so one possibility that came to mind was to get the same saddle in black. So anyway, I tell you all of that just to give you the background for my question:
Can you think of other saddles that might be suitable to what I am looking for? I was looking at the Brooks Swallow, but as far as I can tell I can only get one with copper rivets if I get the Select model and that doesn't come in black? I have other copper accents on my bike which is why I wanted that. Also, I don't know much about other vintage saddle brands, so I wouldn't even know what to search for on ebay, etc. This is a bit of a wild goose chase, I admit and don't worry, I'm not hanging this all on you. I just figured I'd post it this thread so that I'd get at least one legit response.
A while ago my grandfather passed and left each of his grandkids an inheritance. I'd like to use some of that to get something for my bike in his memory. Something classy, possibly vintage or at least evocative of an earlier time. Last year I got a Brooks Swift (in antique brown) from your online shop and have really been enjoying that so one possibility that came to mind was to get the same saddle in black. So anyway, I tell you all of that just to give you the background for my question:
Can you think of other saddles that might be suitable to what I am looking for? I was looking at the Brooks Swallow, but as far as I can tell I can only get one with copper rivets if I get the Select model and that doesn't come in black? I have other copper accents on my bike which is why I wanted that. Also, I don't know much about other vintage saddle brands, so I wouldn't even know what to search for on ebay, etc. This is a bit of a wild goose chase, I admit and don't worry, I'm not hanging this all on you. I just figured I'd post it this thread so that I'd get at least one legit response.
#8459
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From: SoCal
Is this intentional or just an eerie coincidence?
#8460
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#8461
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Surprisingly, it was a coincidence. Matt Lingo took that photo at the Velodrome a couple of weeks ago and quite a few people have pointed out that it looks like that pic of Sheldon. I've got a little toy gorilla I've been considering sticking to the top of my helmet too.
Last edited by Scrodzilla; 04-19-14 at 04:45 PM.
#8462
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Ok Scrod, here's one for you:
A while ago my grandfather passed and left each of his grandkids an inheritance. I'd like to use some of that to get something for my bike in his memory. Something classy, possibly vintage or at least evocative of an earlier time. Last year I got a Brooks Swift (in antique brown) from your online shop and have really been enjoying that so one possibility that came to mind was to get the same saddle in black. So anyway, I tell you all of that just to give you the background for my question:
Can you think of other saddles that might be suitable to what I am looking for? I was looking at the Brooks Swallow, but as far as I can tell I can only get one with copper rivets if I get the Select model and that doesn't come in black? I have other copper accents on my bike which is why I wanted that. Also, I don't know much about other vintage saddle brands, so I wouldn't even know what to search for on ebay, etc. This is a bit of a wild goose chase, I admit and don't worry, I'm not hanging this all on you. I just figured I'd post it this thread so that I'd get at least one legit response.
A while ago my grandfather passed and left each of his grandkids an inheritance. I'd like to use some of that to get something for my bike in his memory. Something classy, possibly vintage or at least evocative of an earlier time. Last year I got a Brooks Swift (in antique brown) from your online shop and have really been enjoying that so one possibility that came to mind was to get the same saddle in black. So anyway, I tell you all of that just to give you the background for my question:
Can you think of other saddles that might be suitable to what I am looking for? I was looking at the Brooks Swallow, but as far as I can tell I can only get one with copper rivets if I get the Select model and that doesn't come in black? I have other copper accents on my bike which is why I wanted that. Also, I don't know much about other vintage saddle brands, so I wouldn't even know what to search for on ebay, etc. This is a bit of a wild goose chase, I admit and don't worry, I'm not hanging this all on you. I just figured I'd post it this thread so that I'd get at least one legit response.

#8463
The Viceroy
Joined: Jan 2012
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From: NSB,Florida
Bikes: SE PK Ripper FG,Trek Classic Steel, Free Spirit FG, Raleigh Pointe, Centurion Sport DLX, Schwinn CrissCross
Is that the Bern Allston you are wearing in your new avatar? If so how do you like it? I've been wanting something that blends a little better to a guy who wears nothing but t-shirts and jean shorts and yet still has reasonable venting.
#8464
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
It is the Allston. I needed to get a new helmet when I cut my dreads off because my XXXL Brentwood no longer fit.
I love the hell out of that thing.
I love the hell out of that thing.
#8466
canis lupus familiaris
Joined: Dec 2011
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From: North Carolina
Bikes: En plus one
Surprisingly, it was a coincidence. Matt Lingo took that photo at the Velodrome a couple of weeks ago and quite a few people have pointed out that it looks like that pic of Sheldon. I've got a little toy gorilla I've been considering sticking to the top of my helmet too. 

#8467
Grumpy Old Bugga
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
Bikes: Hillbrick, Malvern Star Oppy S2, Europa (R.I.P.)
I propose that you are a worthy candidate to carry on his legacy; like him you are a great mechanic that shares his knowledge on line. You also have a great sense of humor and even often chose an eclectic look for your internet persona. I am sure I am forgetting something else but that s enough for now.
#8468
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Joined: Sep 2011
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is there any danger in installing a miche carrier and cog on a formula hub but with a lockring that does not fully cover the splined area?
#8469
Grumpy Old Bugga
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From: Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
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Not answering your question, that's Scrod's job. What exactly are you asking? I can think of a couple of scenarios that might be described this way. Do you mean the locking ring is low and doesn't extend very far up the side of the carrier, not covering the splined area? A photo would help.
#8470
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the lockring i have covers most of the spline teeth on the cog but does not extend further - coming just short of the main body of the cog. here is a little mock up

it seems solid enough installed, but im worried the minimal contact would be a weak and potentially dangerous liability
it seems solid enough installed, but im worried the minimal contact would be a weak and potentially dangerous liability
#8471
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
You'll be fine.
Once the cog is installed on the carrier, it essentially becomes the same as any other threaded cog and the only way for it to come loose from the cog is to be threaded off.
Once the cog is installed on the carrier, it essentially becomes the same as any other threaded cog and the only way for it to come loose from the cog is to be threaded off.
Last edited by Scrodzilla; 04-20-14 at 12:07 AM.
#8473
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Expander plugs are typically for use on carbon steeerers, as inserting a starnut will damage the carbon. There's no real need to use one on a steel or aluminum steerer.
#8474
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Bought Origin 8 risers that are 25.4 in clamp diameter. Are the bar end sizing on for the levers all universal? Don't know if I need 22.2 or 24mm levers.
#8475
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Nitto risers are 24mm. Just about all others are 22.2mm.



