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#8501
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scrod do you have a personal preference between the Kagero or the new histogram? they both have the top tube angle i want in my next ride. i assume the differences are subtle and more aesthetic than anything
#8502
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Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Both are nice frames but I like the Kagero much better.
#8503
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build quality? stiffness? design? any reason its much better?
#8504
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Tubing material and overall quality is about equal. I just prefer traditional round tubes and think the Histogram has one of the ugliest paint schemes going.
#8505
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Joined: Apr 2010
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From: Philadelphia
Bikes: Surly CreamRoller. 98 Giant Rincon. SE UVT
Which one of your builds do you find yourself riding the most? Or if that question was asked before, if your house was burning which bike would you grab first to save?
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#8506
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
I ride my Leader the most but if my house was on fire, I'd save my Raleigh and let Angie round up the cats.
#8508
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Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,452
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From: Philadelphia
Bikes: Surly CreamRoller. 98 Giant Rincon. SE UVT
#8509
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Hey Scrod-
I'm starting to look at switching things up from my leader 722 heritage. I picked it up because it was dirt cheap, but I'd really prefer to get something steel with a tighter, more traditional track geometry (and without the wacky cut out, of course).
I was hoping you could recommend a classic looking, well built frame in the <$600 price range. Unfortunately, in my area, grabbing a used/vintage frame in my size is unlikely, so I'm probably looking at getting something new. The Cinelli Gazzetta kind of fits this bill (besides the questionable fork) but I know cinelli is often not the best bang for your buck, because of the name hype.
Any good recommendations? Or any online outlets (besides trolling the Bay) for something like that used?
Thanks!
I'm starting to look at switching things up from my leader 722 heritage. I picked it up because it was dirt cheap, but I'd really prefer to get something steel with a tighter, more traditional track geometry (and without the wacky cut out, of course).
I was hoping you could recommend a classic looking, well built frame in the <$600 price range. Unfortunately, in my area, grabbing a used/vintage frame in my size is unlikely, so I'm probably looking at getting something new. The Cinelli Gazzetta kind of fits this bill (besides the questionable fork) but I know cinelli is often not the best bang for your buck, because of the name hype.
Any good recommendations? Or any online outlets (besides trolling the Bay) for something like that used?
Thanks!
#8510
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i was in a similar boat, looking at the gazetta. scrod steered me torward my favorite bike yet the eai bare knuckle.
#8511
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
That's exactly what I was going to suggest!
#8513
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Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
It's really not that bad. I would probably round off the sharp bits with a file if I were to continue using it.
#8514
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 30
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From: PDX
Bikes: Bare knuckle, Cross-Check, Serotta Colorado
Hey Scrod,
Question about grease.
Dura Ace special grease or Phil wood?
Question about grease.
Dura Ace special grease or Phil wood?
#8515
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Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Of all the things in life to be particular about, grease used on your bicycle should not one of them.
#8516
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Joined: Mar 2013
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From: PDX
Bikes: Bare knuckle, Cross-Check, Serotta Colorado
Even for bearings?
#8517
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Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Any waterproof grease will be fine.
#8518
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From: PDX
Bikes: Bare knuckle, Cross-Check, Serotta Colorado
Thanks!
#8519
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Joined: Jul 2011
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From: Parma, Ohio
Bikes: Mercier Kilo TT Pro,Scatantte X330
Hey Scrod, after getting my kilo tt pro stolen I purchased another but wanna run a quill set up this time. Any idea how different it would be using a road fork over a track one? You able to get a curved 1" track fork?
#8520
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Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
Bikes: Hillbrick, Malvern Star Oppy S2, Europa (R.I.P.)
Can I safely lengthen a KMC K710SL chain?
I.m swapping wheels between bikes and, of course, have wound up with one that's too short. This chain's only got about 200km on it and while it's easy enough to remove links, I'm not sure how safe it is to push them back in again to lengthen the 710.
I.m swapping wheels between bikes and, of course, have wound up with one that's too short. This chain's only got about 200km on it and while it's easy enough to remove links, I'm not sure how safe it is to push them back in again to lengthen the 710.
#8521
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
I've pushed the pins back in and they've been fine but I've also pushed them back in and had that particular link make an audible click sound afterward while riding, which won't actually weaken the chain but is very annoying.
The best way to do it is to use two K710 master links.
The best way to do it is to use two K710 master links.
#8522
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Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
I can get the Soma 1" track fork with a 30mm rake in black. There may be something else available but I'd need to do some searching.
#8523
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Joined: Nov 2011
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Do you happen to know of a stem like the VO Tall Stack or Soma High Rider, but for 1" steer tubes? I know a shim would work but I'd rather not use a shim if I don't have to.
#8524
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From: Parma, Ohio
Bikes: Mercier Kilo TT Pro,Scatantte X330
Awesome, is the soma fork better than the one you sell or is it all branding that inflates price?
#8525
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Joined: May 2012
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From: Newark, CA/Sacramento, CA
Bikes: Leader 725, Kilo tt
Is there a fork that's priced reasonably, drilled for a brake, and wont look weird on my 725. I'm looking for a second fork to have a brake set up, I'll still be keeping my Alpina F04 fork. The material doesnt mater to me, but I'd probably prefer if it wasnt carbon since itd be really expensive.
Or is there a way to get a clamp on brake caliper for the alpina? or would that just end up either damaging my fork, or not working properly?
Thanks
Or is there a way to get a clamp on brake caliper for the alpina? or would that just end up either damaging my fork, or not working properly?
Thanks
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