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#4201
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
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From: Coeur d' Alene
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NOPE!
I'm not sure what the deal is either. If it's meant for racing and has an engine I want to own/drive/ride the fastest most technologically advanced thing available. But if it has pedals I like to own/ride Fred Flintstone machines. Makes no sense to me either. Like I said about the previous Tri bike, I'd never own or ride one, but I can appreciate what a serious instrument it is.
#4202
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With all due respect and as someone who has done tri and duathlon, saying, "the whole point of traithlon is to prove how tough you are" illustrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the sport.
There is a tremendous sense of accomplishment but that isn't the same as proving something. I certainly never raced to prove anything.
There is also a camaraderie among triathletes which simply doesn't exist in the cycling-only world. You will not find triathletes beating up on each other the way cyclists do. If anyone is out to prove how tough they are it is cyclists. In tri races it is common to find the early finishers cheering the back markers as they come across the finish line and they are the first to acknowledge how tough the age groupers are, people who hold 9 to 5 jobs and are still able to train and finish.
The whole point of an aero tri bike, to go faster. I can assure you from experience that no bike makes the run easier. It never gets easier; you just go faster.
-Tim-
There is a tremendous sense of accomplishment but that isn't the same as proving something. I certainly never raced to prove anything.
There is also a camaraderie among triathletes which simply doesn't exist in the cycling-only world. You will not find triathletes beating up on each other the way cyclists do. If anyone is out to prove how tough they are it is cyclists. In tri races it is common to find the early finishers cheering the back markers as they come across the finish line and they are the first to acknowledge how tough the age groupers are, people who hold 9 to 5 jobs and are still able to train and finish.
The whole point of an aero tri bike, to go faster. I can assure you from experience that no bike makes the run easier. It never gets easier; you just go faster.
-Tim-
#4203
- Soli Deo Gloria -
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From: Northwest Georgia
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Yeah, I don't mean to dog on triathlons or triathletes (well, maybe a little, but only in good fun). I just don't sense any joie de vivre in the sport or the equipment -- the cycling component of a triathlon just seems like something to get over with as quickly as possible rather than something to be enjoyed for itself. There's probably plenty of people who would say I'm wrong about that. Maybe I'll do a triathlon one day and see for myself. Anyway, I've got tons of respect for triathletes but I think their bikes are ugly as ****.
Yes, "as quickly as possible" is the general idea.
#4205
either way, that bike is vomit
#4206
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From: Ichikawa City, Chiba, Japan
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as a slight segue to take the focus off our friendly Tri guys and gals.. here is something we can all aspire to, or not..... now I don't want to sound all "anti patriotic American" but when you call your company "bird of prey" I just cringe. Saying at the cafe I own a Scott, Trek. Even Giant is totally fine but to say out loud in a crowded cafe " I own a Bird Of Prey", cue laughter and mocking....if the name of the company isn't bad enough check out the design! https://birdofpreybicycles.ning.com/photos/birdofprey
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#4207
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From: Ichikawa City, Chiba, Japan
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Maybe I dig it because it shares MANY design principals with my favorite machines. Many similarities. I also dig it because the designers DON'T care about looks. Function is king, style be damned. There are a lot of beneficial performance features on that bicycle that some folks might not be seeing. And when I say "features", I mean actual performance enhancements, not gimmicks. Things like shapes, positions, angles, and weight distribution. Even that little subtle bump on the belly pan chin will serve a purpose.
56 years of constant development by one of the wealthiest companies on Earth, with only one goal. Beat all others, at any cost. They spend tens and tens of millions every year.

#4208
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It looks like this thread has again gone off the tracks. This thread is supposed to be about jackass, not ugly, which are totally different concepts. An ugly functional tribike is definitely not jackass. To me, jackass implies stupid, non-functional and dangerous. Jackass is also the misapplication of something, such as running carbon disk wheels on a fixie bike with riser bars.
#4209
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as a slight segue to take the focus off our friendly Tri guys and gals.. here is something we can all aspire to, or not..... now I don't want to sound all "anti patriotic American" but when you call your company "bird of prey" I just cringe. Saying at the cafe I own a Scott, Trek. Even Giant is totally fine but to say out loud in a crowded cafe " I own a Bird Of Prey", cue laughter and mocking....if the name of the company isn't bad enough check out the design! https://birdofpreybicycles.ning.com/photos/birdofprey
#4211
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as a slight segue to take the focus off our friendly Tri guys and gals.. here is something we can all aspire to, or not..... now I don't want to sound all "anti patriotic American" but when you call your company "bird of prey" I just cringe. Saying at the cafe I own a Scott, Trek. Even Giant is totally fine but to say out loud in a crowded cafe " I own a Bird Of Prey", cue laughter and mocking....if the name of the company isn't bad enough check out the design! https://birdofpreybicycles.ning.com/photos/birdofprey
#4212
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
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#4214
as a slight segue to take the focus off our friendly Tri guys and gals.. here is something we can all aspire to, or not..... now I don't want to sound all "anti patriotic American" but when you call your company "bird of prey" I just cringe. Saying at the cafe I own a Scott, Trek. Even Giant is totally fine but to say out loud in a crowded cafe " I own a Bird Of Prey", cue laughter and mocking....if the name of the company isn't bad enough check out the design! https://birdofpreybicycles.ning.com/photos/birdofprey
#4219
You should return there and have some fun with the brilliant professionals who assembled that gem.
Point out what's wrong, and tell them to correct it they need to move the caliper to the right side. (Then sit back and watch... you might even want to bring some popcorn.)
Point out what's wrong, and tell them to correct it they need to move the caliper to the right side. (Then sit back and watch... you might even want to bring some popcorn.)
#4220
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#4221
Clark W. Griswold




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Exactly. Many of those people get paid by the bike and aren't concerned with safety of anyone because that doesn't make them money. I always laugh when people try and defend those bikes with any level of seriousness.
#4222
Not actually Tmonk




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I want to get a TT bike eventually. I think I'd be good at it, and it looks like fun, in a sick and twisted kind of way
. Plus, I like how safe it is compared to mass start racing.
It might be interesting to vary equipment and pacing strategy and see how it affects your time on a routine course.
. Plus, I like how safe it is compared to mass start racing.It might be interesting to vary equipment and pacing strategy and see how it affects your time on a routine course.
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#4223
Clark W. Griswold




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Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
I want to get a TT bike eventually. I think I'd be good at it, and it looks like fun, in a sick and twisted kind of way
. Plus, I like how safe it is compared to mass start racing.
It might be interesting to vary equipment and pacing strategy and see how it affects your time on a routine course.
. Plus, I like how safe it is compared to mass start racing.It might be interesting to vary equipment and pacing strategy and see how it affects your time on a routine course.
#4224
Pay a little more (or maybe quite a bit more) at a bike shop, or even a sporting goods chain for that matter, and you get something of decent quality. Plus... here's the kicker! You support a business that pays its employees more than starvation wages. WalMart has really thrown a wrench into the supply/demand balance and indeed every part of our economy. On the surface, it seems ordinary people have benefited from the shift they induced. I'm not so sure that's the case though.
Those folks making only starvation wages are not complaining when they shop at the same store where they work to buy a big plasma TV for $300, piles of DVDs at 5 bucks apiece, a $10 pair of shoes... or a $79 mountain bike.
Anywhoo... that's a real JA bike right there!
#4225
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lol
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