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#3952
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From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 80 wheels
Those fugly VISPs have been shown here many times before, and it's hard to believe that they are actually available for sale. At one time VISPs were reasonable inexpensive framesets, and I own a TRX 790 track frame, but they have since morphed into monstrosities that are truly jackass.
#3953
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Those fugly VISPs have been shown here many times before, and it's hard to believe that they are actually available for sale. At one time VISPs were reasonable inexpensive framesets, and I own a TRX 790 track frame, but they have since morphed into monstrosities that are truly jackass.
#3954
I like to post the visps from time to time on facebook because everyone that clicks the link gets stuck seeing them on amazon and random ads if they don't have an adblocker installed. It usually causes a bit of frustration for a week or two.
#3955
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From: Boston, MA
Bikes: Surly Steamroller, Schwinn 974, All-City Nature Boy
Is that just the style of chainring or is it ramped on both sides?
I also have my own old vs. new photo to contribute to the post..
Last edited by OMEN!; 05-13-16 at 04:45 PM.
#3956
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
Joined: Dec 2013
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From: Coeur d' Alene
Bikes: 3 Chinese Gas Pipe Nerdcycles and 2 Chicago Electroforged Boat Anchors
3/32 is narrower than 1/8 but the pitch (length from pin to pin) is still the same. You can run (I do) 1/8 inch chain on 3/32 inch rings and cogs with no issues.
#3965
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From: The Hague, The Netherlands
Bikes: Fuji Feather 2015; Electra Rally Sport
But, at the risk of sounding like an a-hole: it does seem, as some of the youtube comments also point out, that he was trying to catch a light he probably wouldn't make. (specifically, you can see him speeding up when it turns orange. I don't know the US laws, but in the Netherlands, orange means "stop if you can").
It also seems like he's not really paying attention at that point, between the cop car moving and him hitting it, there's a full 2 seconds. Had he been paying attention to the cars he's passing, I would have expected to see at least an attempt to swerve/brake.
My conclusion (which is based on a youtube vid and could be completely wrong) is that while the cop is at fault here and should be held responsible, safer and smarter cycling could have prevented this accident. It sucks that you have to basically always prepare for idiots on the road, but still, that's the way to prevent most accidents).
#3966
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^ you don't sound like an a-hole when you provide an informed opinion presented in a reasonable way. although i feel that whether or not defensive riding could have prevented the accident is irrelevant at this point because the accident already occurred. while it's always important to learn from our mistakes and try to improve for future instances, often times "should/could have" type comments just end up sounding like victim blaming and neglect to place responsibility with the guilty party.
#3967
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From: The Hague, The Netherlands
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^ you don't sound like an a-hole when you provide an informed opinion presented in a reasonable way. although i feel that whether or not defensive riding could have prevented the accident is irrelevant at this point because the accident already occurred. while it's always important to learn from our mistakes and try to improve for future instances, often times "should/could have" type comments just end up sounding like victim blaming and neglect to place responsibility with the guilty party.
This accident happened, can't prevent that anymore. I do think it's important to realise that while you can't prevent all accidents, you can prevent a lot of accidents that would have been someone else's fault (I know, because I do so regularly, both on my bike and in my car) by being paying attention and being careful.
Bottom line: this video contains valuable lessons for both drivers and cyclists
#3969
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From: Coeur d' Alene
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Thanks, and I agree it doesn't really help anymore, which is why I was hesitant to type this. I decided to because I saw the youtube comments being mentioned as ridiculous victim blaming and when I read them, I thought "well, most of these aren't all that bad and they do have at least a bit of a point".
This accident happened, can't prevent that anymore. I do think it's important to realise that while you can't prevent all accidents, you can prevent a lot of accidents that would have been someone else's fault (I know, because I do so regularly, both on my bike and in my car) by being paying attention and being careful.
Bottom line: this video contains valuable lessons for both drivers and cyclists
This accident happened, can't prevent that anymore. I do think it's important to realise that while you can't prevent all accidents, you can prevent a lot of accidents that would have been someone else's fault (I know, because I do so regularly, both on my bike and in my car) by being paying attention and being careful.
Bottom line: this video contains valuable lessons for both drivers and cyclists

#3970
It's clear that the cop was at fault, of course, the guy on the bike will probably still be the one to get in trouble. Kind of like the time the cop killed a guy in a crosswalk and he got off...
NYPD: Teacher Killed by Cop in Crosswalk ?Assumed Risk? by Crossing Street | Streetsblog New York City
NYPD: Teacher Killed by Cop in Crosswalk ?Assumed Risk? by Crossing Street | Streetsblog New York City
#3971
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"Glad the cop showed enough restraint to not shoot the perp for assaulting his vehicle with that bicycle."
That might be the best thing I've ever read!
Isn't 'driving through the red light to make a right turn' a legal in the US? My brother in law told me that's a thing.
That might be the best thing I've ever read!
Isn't 'driving through the red light to make a right turn' a legal in the US? My brother in law told me that's a thing.
#3972
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From: PHL
Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block
Most places in the US, making a right turn on a red light is legal. In LA, it's so legal that the people behind you will honk if you don't do it. Of course you're still required to yield to cross traffic and/or pedestrians.
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The chain doesn't fit onto the ring properly. I can't tell exactly what's wrong, but it's very wrong. Chain is probably elongated by 1/4 inch or something.

