Notices
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

Ingria bikes

Old 07-18-14 | 11:18 AM
  #1  
Drastry's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 34
Likes: 1
From: Russia

Bikes: Fuji Feather (2013)

Ingria bikes

Hey guys. I am a fixed-gear rider from Russia.

Lately I've started thinking about purchasing an aluminium track frame. I've looked through a lot of data and realised that bringing a leader or aveton from abroad can be pretty expensive (thanks to our customs service, huh).

This is when I came across a neat frame-building workshop in St. Petersburg which focuses on building their own alloy frames. They currently have two models:

Ingria Airpusher



Ingria Firestarter



So I was wandering, are those frames any good?
Drastry is offline  
Reply
Old 07-18-14 | 12:35 PM
  #2  
Leukybear's Avatar
THE STUFFED
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,671
Likes: 21
From: San Francisco, CA

Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone SLR9 Gen 8

I've seen their frames before on the internet and from what I've seen, they seem to know what they're doing.
Leukybear is offline  
Reply
Old 07-18-14 | 03:43 PM
  #3  
Philasteve's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,452
Likes: 12
From: Philadelphia

Bikes: Surly CreamRoller. 98 Giant Rincon. SE UVT

Honestly I think they both look sick. Never heard of them before though.
Philasteve is offline  
Reply
Old 07-18-14 | 04:49 PM
  #4  
I'm usually cranky
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 397
Likes: 1
I checked out the Ingria site and based on the vague technical info, my first thought was that these were probably low end aluminum frames like you see on ebay for $150. But looking at the pics, they've got them dressed up with Miche cranks and other decent components, so maybe they're not so bad. Would be curious to hear from anyone who owns one. And fwiw, the Firestarter is definitely the better looking of the two.

Most importantly, welcome to the forum, Drastry!
jhess74 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-18-14 | 07:36 PM
  #5  
JeremyLC's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,414
Likes: 2
From: Arlington, TX

Bikes: 2008 Surly Cross Check, 2010 Fuji Track Comp

I found this on LFGSS. The welds in those photos look awful. Those are from last year, so maye they've had the chance to improve since then.
JeremyLC is offline  
Reply
Old 07-18-14 | 07:52 PM
  #6  
hairnet's Avatar
Fresh Garbage
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,190
Likes: 30
From: Los Angeles

Bikes: N+1

Some of those dudes are in serious denial of their bikes' "****ness"
hairnet is offline  
Reply
Old 07-18-14 | 08:25 PM
  #7  
Scrodzilla's Avatar
Your cog is slipping.
Titanium Club Membership
Sheldon Brown Memorial - Titanium
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
Likes: 100
From: Beverly MA

Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle

Originally Posted by JeremyLC
I found this on LFGSS. The welds in those photos look awful. Those are from last year, so maye they've had the chance to improve since then.
Oof:

Scrodzilla is offline  
Reply
Old 07-18-14 | 09:38 PM
  #8  
I'm usually cranky
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 397
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Oof:

Yikes... I retract anything even remotely positive I said about them.
jhess74 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-18-14 | 11:49 PM
  #9  
Leukybear's Avatar
THE STUFFED
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,671
Likes: 21
From: San Francisco, CA

Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone SLR9 Gen 8

That's Russian for character^
You pay extra for that.
Leukybear is offline  
Reply
Old 07-19-14 | 12:36 AM
  #10  
Huffandstuff's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,776
Likes: 2
I remember my first weld.
Huffandstuff is offline  
Reply
Old 07-19-14 | 01:51 AM
  #11  
Drastry's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 34
Likes: 1
From: Russia

Bikes: Fuji Feather (2013)

Thanks for the invitation

About those welds.. Russian FG community is also kinda disgusted by them, but hey, they are learning (or at least I hope so).

Also I've found this:

UPD:

I fell in love with their updated frame, but bear logo, seriously? How stereotypical is this?


Last edited by Drastry; 07-19-14 at 01:57 AM.
Drastry is offline  
Reply
Old 07-19-14 | 02:24 AM
  #12  
europa's Avatar
Grumpy Old Bugga
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,229
Likes: 9
From: Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

Bikes: Hillbrick, Malvern Star Oppy S2, Europa (R.I.P.)

The bear logo is okay, a good artist can easily paint something in its mouth, a leg bone, car panel, Cossack sabre.

Unless the cost gets stupid, it's good to support a local industry. Russia has a long and successful record of small industries catering to sports or hobbies and in at least some, have grown from basic through to the extremely high tech (I'm thinking model aeroplane engines in particular). You may become part of something special.
europa is offline  
Reply
Old 07-19-14 | 02:45 AM
  #13  
GENESTARWIND's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,938
Likes: 15
From: las vegas

Bikes: purty blue undefeated II 57cm

i wonder what rims they are using for their box section wheels.
GENESTARWIND is offline  
Reply
Old 07-19-14 | 05:42 AM
  #14  
Drastry's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 34
Likes: 1
From: Russia

Bikes: Fuji Feather (2013)

Originally Posted by europa
The bear logo is okay, a good artist can easily paint something in its mouth, a leg bone, car panel, Cossack sabre.

Unless the cost gets stupid, it's good to support a local industry. Russia has a long and successful record of small industries catering to sports or hobbies and in at least some, have grown from basic through to the extremely high tech (I'm thinking model aeroplane engines in particular). You may become part of something special.
This is actually a good point!
Drastry is offline  
Reply
Old 07-19-14 | 08:27 AM
  #15  
jlafitte's Avatar
Pirate/Smuggler
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,184
Likes: 7
From: Marigny/Leucadia
Also agree with Europa. But why is the lettering on the frame not in Cyrillic?
jlafitte is offline  
Reply
Old 07-19-14 | 01:28 PM
  #16  
Leukybear's Avatar
THE STUFFED
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,671
Likes: 21
From: San Francisco, CA

Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone SLR9 Gen 8

Originally Posted by Drastry
but bear logo, seriously? How stereotypical is this?
I don't have anything against the bear logo.
Leukybear is offline  
Reply
Old 07-19-14 | 02:16 PM
  #17  
I'm usually cranky
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 397
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by jlafitte
Also agree with Europa. But why is the lettering on the frame not in Cyrillic?
That would look pretty cool. I'd guess they went with English for broader appeal - if they want to expand outside of Russia, especially if they have an eye on the US market, English is probably the more safe/neutral choice. No disrespect to Russia, Drastry, just trying to think like a profit-minded business guy.

/uneducated speculation.
jhess74 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-19-14 | 11:03 PM
  #18  
Leukybear's Avatar
THE STUFFED
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,671
Likes: 21
From: San Francisco, CA

Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone SLR9 Gen 8

Originally Posted by jhess74
That would look pretty cool. I'd guess they went with English for broader appeal - if they want to expand outside of Russia, especially if they have an eye on the US market, English is probably the more safe/neutral choice. No disrespect to Russia, Drastry, just trying to think like a profit-minded business guy.

/uneducated speculation.
I'm pretty sure they would oblige with no hesitance if you wanted it to be in cryillic considering they offer it.
Leukybear is offline  
Reply
Old 07-20-14 | 06:56 AM
  #19  
I'm usually cranky
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 397
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Leukybear
I'm pretty sure they would oblige with no hesitance if you wanted it to be in cryillic considering they offer it.
Well, then I was correct to call it uneducated speculation.
jhess74 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-20-14 | 12:40 PM
  #20  
Drastry's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 34
Likes: 1
From: Russia

Bikes: Fuji Feather (2013)

Originally Posted by jlafitte
Also agree with Europa. But why is the lettering on the frame not in Cyrillic?


I would totally go for a cyrillic inscription.
Drastry is offline  
Reply
Old 07-20-14 | 12:57 PM
  #21  
bikemig's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 21,770
Likes: 5,674
From: Middle Earth (aka IA)

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Originally Posted by Drastry


I would totally go for a cyrillic inscription.
I'd say that a cyrillic inscription is hot; very cool.
bikemig is offline  
Reply
Old 07-20-14 | 01:33 PM
  #22  
SquidPuppet's Avatar
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,861
Likes: 41
From: Coeur d' Alene

Bikes: 3 Chinese Gas Pipe Nerdcycles and 2 Chicago Electroforged Boat Anchors

OT but just in case anyone cares ~

so i just picked up the frame from customs of almost one year of waiting. had to pay 140€ on top of the 500€ (+70€ shipping), frame came with a LOT of damages in the paint. overall i'm grateful that the wait is over but im still very disappointed in the paintjob, the handling and build quality. the paint is often rough, theres dust/dirt under the paint and the welding is some of the worst i have ever seen and it makes the tubing feel bumpy as ****.

2/10 wouldn't recommend
Nice dropouts????

SquidPuppet is offline  
Reply
Old 07-20-14 | 02:47 PM
  #23  
JeremyLC's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,414
Likes: 2
From: Arlington, TX

Bikes: 2008 Surly Cross Check, 2010 Fuji Track Comp

Originally Posted by Drastry
UPD:

I fell in love with their updated frame, but bear logo, seriously? How stereotypical is this?

In the middle photo there, is that a gusset under the down tube at the head tube?
JeremyLC is offline  
Reply
Old 07-20-14 | 02:51 PM
  #24  
hairnet's Avatar
Fresh Garbage
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,190
Likes: 30
From: Los Angeles

Bikes: N+1

yes

This frame was inspired by great track frames from Yuri Petrovich Samoylov. It has a unique geometry giving the shortest clearance between the frame and the front 700c wheel, which still allows to barspin.



This is our most aggressive sprinter frame with tight wheelbase. Frame has head tube/down tube, down tube/seat tube and chainstay gussets to increase buckling capacity.




hairnet is offline  
Reply
Old 03-25-16 | 04:23 PM
  #25  
AndjaVXC's Avatar
VELO.MUERTO
 
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 332
Likes: 6
From: Vancouver, WA

Bikes: Charge EVO III, Cannondale CAAD8

Back from the dead, wondering if there's been any new info on these bikes?

For the price, they look like a killer frame, and I'm able to get better prices in shipping than the general public to and from overseas, so I'm curious about maybe picking up an Airpusher.

Anyone around here have or seen one up close lately?
AndjaVXC is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.