Container for Heet fuel
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Ah, good tip, that would be ethanol. Might find same as "denatured alcohol" which according to wiki is "... and denatured rectified spirit is ethanol that has additives to make it poisonous, bad-tasting, foul-smelling, or nauseating to discourage its recreational consumption." If using Everclear, it needs to be the really high percentage stuff. My first stove was an alcohol one (Safesport) that preceded, but similar burner configuation, to beverage can stoves. At low altitude I could burn 70% isopropyl alcohol, but when I was at Yellowstone, not winter but a cold day, I think I was between 5000 and 7000 feet elevation, stove wouldn't stay lit. I promptly bought a Whisperlite Int'l after that trip and gave the alcohol stove and a can of 100% methanol to a relative that lives about 10 feet over sea level, for emergencies.
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I don't know that I would want the additives that is the point of the Everclear or similar high proof hooch to have a nice clean during food grade substance. I am using it for cooking even if just a fuel source it is nice to have something I could also use for other purposes if need be. I would recommend the higher proof stuff if you can get it anyway because aside from legal B.S. what is the point of low proof Everclear? I am not drinking it, if I am making something with it I will be adding flavors and liquids to proof it down quite a bit so a higher proof is better to get even better extraction.
I've been a white gas stove junkie for many decades now, but did pick up an excellent, super-compact canister stove when it was cheap at REI's return sale. Proper canister fuel is still pricey (went way up during pandemic, and not back down), but I can use cheap butane fuel from the asian market ($2/8oz) for 3 season use, very cheap, I just need to buy an adaptor for that style can (bayonet to screw fitting), and buy or make some sort of lightweight stand to stabilize the tall skinny can. For a daily ride or short multiday trip, that might be the way to go on my bike, easy, fast, and cleaner for just a quick boil, versus pump/sooty-prime* of white gas. I already have a 1 liter MSR pot found cheap at goodwill.
* "You wouldn't have all that schmutz on your hands if you used a clean-burning fuel like PROPANE." - Hank Hill
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Quite a few people here roaming around in Spain at the moment. Just a heads up: The methylated spirits they sell in supermarkets is used for cleaning. It burns, just about, but takes ages to heat a cup of water. The good stuff might be found in an hardware store (ferreteria), but can be tricky to find.
Awesome list:
https://internationalfuelnames.org/
Awesome list:
https://internationalfuelnames.org/
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On overnights, I have been upcycling those plastic 2 oz. mini liquor bottles I find all over now scattered everywhere along the roadside for various liquids. Sunscreen, alcohol fuel, dish soap or shampoo.
I have a new titanium mini alcohol stove that generates almost no soot or smoke with isopropyl, maybe because the jets run into each other and help it burn completely (?).
https://www.amazon.com/Boundless-Voy...s%2C410&sr=8-7
I have a new titanium mini alcohol stove that generates almost no soot or smoke with isopropyl, maybe because the jets run into each other and help it burn completely (?).
https://www.amazon.com/Boundless-Voy...s%2C410&sr=8-7
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60ml would be a useful size 👍
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In the USA state of South Carolina, from 1973 thru 2005, you could ONLY get liquor at bars in "mini-bottles", instead of "free pour" from a typical 750ml bottle. If you ordered "two, three ways", that meant you wanted two mini-bottles split three ways for a drink for each of the three of you. This seriously hindered cocktail culture until repeal enacted on January 1, 2006.
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In the USA state of South Carolina, from 1973 thru 2005, you could ONLY get liquor at bars in "mini-bottles", instead of "free pour" from a typical 750ml bottle. If you ordered "two, three ways", that meant you wanted two mini-bottles split three ways for a drink for each of the three of you. This seriously hindered cocktail culture until repeal enacted on January 1, 2006.
Fun fact: The Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board was, and might still be, the largest single purchaser of wine and spirits in the US.
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As mentioned above trangia bottles are the way to go they make them down to .3 liters. I have some bottles that came out of Swiss army mess kit but they are hard to find a now expensive
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Wow! I thought PA was bad. All liquor sales are still state controlled. Wine is now available in grocery stores that meet certain criteria. That’s a relatively recent change. I try to buy in NJ whenever possible. During the pandemic, when liquor stores in PA were closed, you’d see a lot of PA license plates in place like Total Wine across the river in NJ.
Fun fact: The Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board was, and might still be, the largest single purchaser of wine and spirits in the US.
Fun fact: The Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board was, and might still be, the largest single purchaser of wine and spirits in the US.
Under referendum, WA state went from state stores to private. Liquor costs the same (despite promises of more competition), high taxes, just the profits go to private companies instead of benefitting state programs. If fact I think prices are higher now because liquor taxes were raised, due to losing any profit on just the normal sale of it. And state stores had better selection, I can't find Cruzan black strap rum (a bargain at old prices) to save my life.
Stainless steel water bottles are commonplace now, and cheap used at goodwill. Here is one smaller than typical, 355ml, new with tag on bottom, $3.99. I don't know if the plastic cap or o-ring is fuel safe. Some stainless bottles have stainless caps, though still an o-ring.
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You can find the new empty bottles for pretty cheap on amazon. Not sure about sale in europe or shipping to there, but I'd guess it wouldn't be a problem. A google search for "empty mini liquor bottle" should turn up quite a few hits.
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Thanks. Yes lots on Amazon. They look like they have metal caps, though I might be mistaken. Not a fan. I’ve had them get a bit bent over time and leak
ah, scrolled a bit. Tons of choices. Who wudda thunk!
ah, scrolled a bit. Tons of choices. Who wudda thunk!
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Most of the plastic bottles I have seen had plastic caps. The glass bottles tended to have metal caps. The ones with metal caps that I remember had pretty sturdy ones. Not sure about what is currently available though. Things may have changed.
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Flip-tops typically have a little notch for your finger. If that caught on something while putting it in a bag, there would be more than enough force to open it. I’ll stick to screw tops.
Could be just the lingering trauma of said shampoo bottle a long long time ago.
I do have a subconscious habit of checking that screwed on caps are actually screwed on when putting them away
Could be just the lingering trauma of said shampoo bottle a long long time ago.
I do have a subconscious habit of checking that screwed on caps are actually screwed on when putting them away
At least your pannier smelled good when the shampoo came undone
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Thanks! BTW, that Ti stove on Amazon doesn't come with a snuffer lid, but I just ordered a Ti lid on Aliexpress for under $4.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/32568...12868563106%21
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/32568...12868563106%21





