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Old 09-25-14 | 05:46 PM
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Superglue, JB Weld, or actual weld the bolts in place on the rack?
Yeah. That would make the rack easier to put on and remove. smh.
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Old 09-25-14 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 3speed
I don't know that it makes any difference. It looks to me, in that small picture, like the rack might be angled a bit far back. You can obviously tell much more in person than I can from that little pic, though. If it's good where it's at, I wouldn't worry about it. I just wanted to give a heads up in case your racks were tilted back but you thought it was just supposed to go in that hole.
Right you are 3speed - the bike was mounted in the bike stand and the rack appeared perfectly level - when I took it out it had a sad lean...remounted it in the slot instead. 1986 Schwinn Voyageur with Vetta Italian rear rack and Jim Blackburn FL-1 Low Rider front rack.
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Old 09-25-14 | 10:03 PM
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I'm new to loaded touring and looking at frames at the moment. I'm wondering how important mid-fork eyelets are when choosing a frame set. I don't know my requirements yet, but sooner or later I will probably do long distance touring with heavy loads.

Do they allow you to carry heavier loads?

What other advantages do racks that mount to these mid-fork eyelets offer as opposed to just the bottom eyelets?
It's nice to have the option, but P-clamps are perfectly acceptable as a substitute. I was skeptical about P-clamps before I used them, but after several years of sterling service with heavy loads on my front rack (including regular asymmetrical loads) and no slipping or failures, I'm quite happy with P-clamps. If you have larger diameter fork blades or happen to have some scrap aluminum* and an old inner tube, you can make your own P-clamps. That's what I've been using. Just used some factory ones (PDW brand) to mount a rear rack to my girlfriends city bike too.

If I liked everything else about a frame, the lack of mid-fork bosses wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. That said, of course it's a more aesthetically pleasing set up to bolt directly to the fork rather than having P-clamps.

* IIRC, the scrap sheet of aluminum I picked up from the hardware store was about ten dollars and bigger than a sheet of paper, which is more p-clamps and fender brackets than I'll likely ever need!
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Old 09-25-14 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Erick L
Most racks, especially low-riders, use both low and mid eyelets so you have more choice. You can use clamps instead of the mid-eleyets but it's not as pretty.

I use an OMM Sherpa front rack that attaches to the brake bosses and skewer. Don't know if it's actually stronger but it sure feels like it.
I've wondered about this. I've used a Old Man Mountain rack that attaches the same way (the now discontinued Cold Springs model, but very similar), and I actually bent a few skewers early on before I switched to heavier duty tandem skewers. Admittedly, I was doing things to that rack it was never designed for*, but I think it gives us an idea of where the force gets sent in racks designed that way.


* This was probably my lightest passenger:
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Old 09-26-14 | 12:33 AM
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Yeah. That would make the rack easier to put on and remove. smh.
I'm not certain if you're being serious or sarcastic since it's difficult to tell with text and I'm not familiar with "smh," but I'll go with sarcastic. If you understood what I'm saying, it would serve your purpose exactly with eliminating the need for a wrench. ...Though I guess in your situation since you're using those Tubus clamps rather than u-bolts or p-clamps, you'd be attaching the nuts to the clamp, not the rack. The nut would be permanently fixed to the clamp and then you'd only need a hex wrench to remove the bolt. It would be basically as if the clamp were threaded on the half with the nut.

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Originally Posted by 3speed
Though I guess in your situation since you're using those Tubus clamps rather than u-bolts or p-clamps, you'd be attaching the nuts to the clamp, not the rack.

As stated, I do use P-Clamps now ("I use a Nitto Big front rack that attaches up top with P-Clamps.") and am looking for something that might possibly be easier. Don't see how welding tiny nuts to small clamps, with the holes lined up perfectly, would be a practical solution. If the welds were to fail, I would be in the same situation. I would rather simply carry the wrench if I need to remove the rack for travel or leave it at home on faith that things won't come loose, as I did a few weeks ago.
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