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Old 08-31-14 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ze_zaskar
Which happens to be the case.

Also, I just sold my fatbike (Surly Pugsley) and the parts from my classic GT Zaskar will be transferred for my GF's new frame, so the LHT will be my only bike for a while
26" all the way then....and lots of patch kits!
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Old 08-31-14 | 07:35 PM
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No brainer. 700c.

No reason to buy 26" unless you are too short for 700c frame.
Care to share why you have this opinion?
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Old 09-01-14 | 12:24 PM
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Regardless of wheel size, I was thinking about getting 36h Mavic XM317 or A319 rims. I keep reading great reviews about the Rigida (now Ryde) Sputnik, which I can get pretty cheap. Are they a better option for a bike that it going to be ridden loaded aboard?
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Any comments on this one?
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Old 09-23-14 | 01:07 PM
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An update: between the 700c and 26" LHT I've decided on the 26". I figured that, for my riding style, I can't live without 50mm plus tires

Now I've found a UK dealer which has the Velo Orange Camargue............
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Old 10-03-14 | 10:32 AM
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Sorry guys. I've been very busy with my shop so I couldn't reply to this thread.

That was not just my opinion. I've been in this industry for a while and talk to many people that tour around the world.

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A bike with more agility than the 700c and with at least as much cargo capacity, wider tires and a taller BB seem like pretty good features of the 26" LHT. That's why so many people get on the fence
Agility? We are talking about touring bike loaded with stuff. If you want taller BB and wider than the what 700c LHT offers(you can fit 2.0), Surly makes Trolly for that application.

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You're kidding right? Or you know remarkably few people who ride bikes. You might want to read the posts on this thread and others on this topic. There are a lot of people whose taste runs to 26 inch wheels for a number of different applications.
Welcome to the world outside of internet forums. Many people into bicycle touring don't even come to the forums and talk about stuffs like this. Many people just ride. Why? I've found the majority of people that are into bicycle touring are older so maybe they not into online forums.

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Or if he plans to tour outside North America.
Funny part about this is that if you actually tour around the world, you'll be surprised how easy it is to get 700c tubes and tires. I've never had a problem.

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People like 26" wheels because they are stronger and easier to get tubes. IMO, things have changed.

These days, our equipment have changed a lot from olden days when we had to carry 100lbs of stuff to travel around the world. We've learned not to carry too much stuff and use multi-purpose items that can be used for many different applications. I thank the bikepacking and backpacking crowd for the advancement. Without their countless experiments with a lot of different gears and techniques, I'll be carrying a 30lbs. backpack when I go backpacking and 60lbs of stuff when I go on a bicycle touring trip.

IMO, 26" wheel strength is overrated now for touring purpose.

I don't know why people are still thinking that 700c tubes are rare item around the world. I've never had a problem getting tubes from overseas.

At last, the ride of 700c wheels are so much better to me. I highly recommend to try both 26 and 700 a try back to back with similar width tires. I'm sure you will notice the difference.

Anyway, sorry if my opinion and experiences are bothering some of you. I honestly was saying I haven't seen people wanting 26" instead of 700c.

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Old 10-03-14 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Cyclery
Sorry guys. I've been very busy with my shop so I couldn't reply to this thread.

That was not just my opinion. I've been in this industry for a while and talk to many people that tour around the world.



Agility? We are talking about touring bike loaded with stuff. If you want taller BB and wider than the what 700c LHT offers(you can fit 2.0), Surly makes Trolly for that application.



Welcome to the world outside of internet forums. Many people into bicycle touring don't even come to the forums and talk about stuffs like this. Many people just ride. Why? I've found the majority of people that are into bicycle touring are older so maybe they not into online forums.



Funny part about this is that if you actually tour around the world, you'll be surprised how easy it is to get 700c tubes and tires. I've never had a problem.


People like 26" wheels because they are stronger and easier to get tubes. IMO, things have changed.

These days, our equipment have changed a lot from olden days when we had to carry 100lbs of stuff to travel around the world. We've learned not to carry too much stuff and use multi-purpose items that can be used for many different applications. I thank the bikepacking and backpacking crowd for the advancement. Without their countless experiments with a lot of different gears and techniques, I'll be carrying a 30lbs. backpack when I go backpacking and 60lbs of stuff when I go on a bicycle touring trip.

IMO, 26" wheel strength is overrated now for touring purpose.

I don't know why people are still thinking that 700c tubes are rare item around the world. I've never had a problem getting tubes from overseas.

At last, the ride of 700c wheels are so much better to me. I highly recommend to try both 26 and 700 a try back to back with similar width tires. I'm sure you will notice the difference.

Anyway, sorry if my opinion and experiences are bothering some of you. I honestly was saying I haven't seen people wanting 26" instead of 700c.

Chat soon.
It's not your opinions that bother anyone. This is a forum where we discuss ideas. Rather it is your tendency pass off your ideas as "facts." There are plenty of folks here who has as much experience, if not more, than you so maybe you need to back up your ideas with some reasoned arguments rather than pointing out how superior your experience is to everyone else on this thread.
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Old 10-03-14 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bikemig
It's not your opinions that bother anyone. This is a forum where we discuss ideas. Rather it is your tendency pass off your ideas as "facts." There are plenty of folks here who has as much experience, if not more, than you so maybe you need to back up your ideas with some reasoned arguments rather than pointing out how superior your experience is to everyone else on this thread.
Good for you sir. Sorry if I pass off my ideas as "facts".

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Old 10-03-14 | 11:19 AM
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Good for you sir. Sorry if I pass off my ideas as "facts".

Have a great day.
You just don't get it do you. There are a lot of people here with a really impressive knowledge base. I learn a lot on this forum. People push me on my ideas and get me to think about things differently. I wish I knew half as much as some of the posters in this forum. But by and large most of the posters don't tell you that they know so much about a topic that everyone just needs to listen to them. It's a pretty ineffective way to argue and simply not true.
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Old 10-03-14 | 12:20 PM
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You just don't get it do you.
No I don't.


Originally Posted by bikemig
There are a lot of people here with a really impressive knowledge base. I learn a lot on this forum.
I know and I too learned a lot. I used to post here with a different username for the last 10 years here so I've been here for a while and learned a lot.


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People push me on my ideas and get me to think about things differently. I wish I knew half as much as some of the posters in this forum. But by and large most of the posters don't tell you that they know so much about a topic that everyone just needs to listen to them. It's a pretty ineffective way to argue and simply not true.
Sorry if my opinion wasn't valid enough for you. I know you think I just need to listen, but I rather post what I think and experienced. The whole point of this forum is to chat and share experience isn't it?

I've been in the industry for a while and I like to share and take different ideas with people.

I guess my apology wasn't sincere enough to you, but it was.
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Old 10-04-14 | 04:49 PM
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DreamCyclery, my opinion pertains to the handling of the 56cm LHT in both wheel sizes, not a general statement on wheel sizes. The handling characteristics I described pertain only to the 56cm LHT, not all bikes differentiated by wheel size.
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