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Old 07-06-12, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bostongarden
Blaargh, just finished Monday-Friday 19 hours 5 minutes of riding (n.b., that's time while wheels were turning). That's all.
Nice - vacation week?
Nice use of N.B. - had an argument with my boss one day about using that, he considers himself soooooo smart and that he had never heard of it must mean I was wrong.
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Originally Posted by rkwaki
Nice - vacation week?
Nice use of N.B. - had an argument with my boss one day about using that, he considers himself soooooo smart and that he had never heard of it must mean I was wrong.
Thanks, yes (vacation), thanks; in addition, my oldest is in process of riding from Amsterdam to Barcelona (in 24 days I think) and I wanted to try and match the daily distances of his itinerary!!! Overall, I might have; but, my max was about 75 and his was either 86 or 90 for this week.

"N.B." is not often used I suspect, but, it can be key.
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Tabatas. My first time ever. They're awful. I sure hope they're effective, because they suck. The mental cost is considerable. Ended up averaging somewhere in the 400W range overall for the on sections. 2 sets of 8, 4 minutes each. First part of each set had a big jump of 700W or whatever, but the beginning of each other interval was right around the average. Shortest 10 seconds ever.
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Went for a ride today.... Every big bump was shooting a very sharp and intense pain from my seatbone. I hit it few days back, thought it was fine but motorcycle ride yesterday really twicked it the wrong way. I couldn't even do high intensity intervals seated. I hope it gets better by Sunday.
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2x20' on the way home. 90' total. 79 tss. Good solid workout/commute.
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Did the club 20km TT this morning....20min power continues to go up....Gain another 10w, up to 220w now...slowly, but surely...
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3 hours in the heat. 98 with a heat index of 101. I feel like death. After about 2 hours I wanted to just lay down. So hot. Still feeling a little sick and it's been an hour.
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drink sugary sports drinks and lay low and you should be alright in a bit.

i know the feeling.
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Feeling better now. The Gatorade was actually part of the problem. I ended up getting a big bottle at the store I stopped at, but no water, because there wasn't any cold. So I had just Gatorade. Too much sugar. I was desiring some cold water in a bad way.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
drink sugary sports drinks and lay low and you should be alright in a bit.

i know the feeling.
Horrible idea
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
3 hours in the heat. 98 with a heat index of 101. I feel like death. After about 2 hours I wanted to just lay down. So hot. Still feeling a little sick and it's been an hour.
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Feeling better now. The Gatorade was actually part of the problem. I ended up getting a big bottle at the store I stopped at, but no water, because there wasn't any cold. So I had just Gatorade. Too much sugar. I was desiring some cold water in a bad way.
i did this two weeks ago and again this past wednesday - four hours in temps that my body is definitely not used to. apparently i didn't learn the first time. felt exactly the same about gatorade and cold water. i kept drinking gatorade during the ride because i was afraid i'd get dehydrated and because i was sweating buckets, but after a couple of hours i hated every sip. definitely didn't help that it was warm.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
3 hours in the heat. 98 with a heat index of 101. I feel like death. After about 2 hours I wanted to just lay down. So hot. Still feeling a little sick and it's been an hour.

Felt the same last weekend - just drink a lot, sit in the AC, and take a nap. Should feel better tomorrow though!

Yesterday 3 hours with 2x35 min z3. Great route except for about 2 miles which I stupidly didn't look at with the satellite view before hand. Turned to dirt and this road sucked. It was either ride on rocks and risk having a puncture with no one to call or ride in 2-3 in deep sand. I chose the sand and made it through after about 5 or 6 halts and unclips. I am kinda starting to see this "roubaix" race thrill though.

Today 1 hour ez real early and spend the rest of the day with my family who came to visit.
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People still drink Gatorade?? (and by people I mean bike racers)

Training status: I don't really train per se these days, I just ride and race.

Did a 5 hour hike yesterday in the Cascades with gain of 2500' or so, TSS was > 0.
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Just short of 4 hours of Z2. I planned on 5+ hours, but it was too damn hot and I cut it short.
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today was 3 hours of .7 IF, followed by some hill repeats at just over threshold (holy **** its hard to go that hard after riding that long!!!!), then an hour of high z1/ low z2 to get home.
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Team came to town today to do some hill repeats...Damn can these guys climb...I try

Must say descending the hill numerous times a week helps in picking lines. All the guys were commenting on their inability to not scrub off speed on the final corner. Wife and I just lean into it and go with the flow
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2hrs of SST. Solid.
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3 hours last evening. had some either tempo or SST (depending on what the legs could turn) on the plate although after multiple attempts just could't last more than 10 minutes as I kept feeling like I was overheating. Ended up running out of water, finally found a gas station but that is the worst i have ever felt from heat. Really wish it would cool down a bit.
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Originally Posted by mattm
People still drink Gatorade?? (and by people I mean bike racers)
powdered g-ade for me on rides ~2hrs, works for me. I use gu-brew for longer rides/races.
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Originally Posted by DropDeadFred
Horrible idea
works for me
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Originally Posted by mattm
People still drink Gatorade?? (and by people I mean bike racers)

Training status: I don't really train per se these days, I just ride and race.

Did a 5 hour hike yesterday in the Cascades with gain of 2500' or so, TSS was > 0.
Why not? It works, it's cheap in powdered form. It's probably the most studied drink on the planet. Should I be using some overpriced cycling specific thing?
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Well as a self proclaimed 'heat rider' (nickname used to be the Spaniard because I can really take the heat) and in doing some research over the last little bit let me offer some help as we ride out this heat.
I always start with two frozen bottles, sometimes one water one gatorade but usually both water. I also put two ziplock bags of ice in my side pockets of my jersey. Of course as you get going everything starts to melt. Once I am soaked with sweat I often poke a little hole in the ziplocks bags and let the water run down me a little. If you can't carry two bags of ice put one in your middle pocket on your spine.
When it is hot like this I target two bottles an hour therefore my routes are planned around store stops and I fill up both bottles.
I have also increased my sodium intake and put salt on almost everything.
My daily water consumption is in excess of 1.5 gallons a day. You cannot hydrate yourself the day of your training, it has to be done beforehand.
A lot of the success you are looking for in the heat comes from proper planning. When we went for a long ride last week in the heat, one of the guys was complaining that we made two store stops in the first two hours, I call them a splash and dash, he was one of the guys that the heat hit hard later on in the ride while I was feeling fine
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Back on the bike..if i ride tomorrow it will be the first time i've ridden 3 days in a row in over 3 months..I rode 5 times in June, 8 times in may..

Pretty much starting base over again. Gained 15lbs too...good stuff. We'll call the next month a case study
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do it up crash!

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Originally Posted by Flatballer
Why not? It works, it's cheap in powdered form. It's probably the most studied drink on the planet. Should I be using some overpriced cycling specific thing?
I typically only use water because there is enough salt in my diet.

however when I am riding really long or it's really hot I do appreciate some salt and sugar in my bottle. cheaper the better.
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