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Old 09-25-14, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
when highlighting the difference between Southern California and Northern California, I didn't bold out the Nevada part because I don't live there.

I am about to have my ass handed to me by those dudes who get to live at elevation and train on long mountains this weekend.
I just mean the jersey in general and ncnca not including any reference to nevada (northern nevada I guess because there is also scnca???).
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Originally Posted by himespau
Maybe that's why they promoted you. They didn't want to do the firing, so they put you in the position where you had to take care of that, at which point your position will be dissolved and you'll return to your older position but now the 3 of you will need to find a way to also do the work of those other 2 FTEs that they're getting rid of (but not the workload) and not replacing. Or am I too much of a cynic about these things?
It's more because my current boss has way too many people reporting to her, and works like 90 hours/week. I want no part of that, which is why I have not applied for or sought out any promotion here.

typically here additional.compensation = additional.workload[SUP]2[/SUP]

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Originally Posted by hack
I just mean the jersey in general and ncnca not including any reference to nevada (northern nevada I guess because there is also scnca???).

there is a state seal of Nevada on the back. comically not pictured.

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mt. auburn and a cross street, not sure of which one.
Ah ok. Heard about a different incident this morning.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
there is a state seal of Nevada on the back. comically not pictured.

nice...didn't see that before
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
typically here additional.workload = additional.compensation[SUP]2[/SUP]
In that case, you should ask for 50% additional compensation, resulting in only 25% additional work. Sweet deal you got there!
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
In that case, you should ask for 50% additional compensation, resulting in only 25% additional work. Sweet deal you got there!
listen, just because I can't math doesn't mean we don't all know what I intended to equate!
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
It's more because my current boss has way too many people reporting to her, and works like 90 hours/week. I want no part of that, which is why I have not applied for or sought out any promotion here.

typically here additional.compensation = additional.workload[SUP]2[/SUP]
Don't you 'work' like 3 hours a day? You go on lunchtime rides all the time. Must be nice! Congrats on the promotion.
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Originally Posted by Gramercy
Don't you 'work' like 3 hours a day? You go on lunchtime rides all the time. Must be nice! Congrats on the promotion.
I did, and I loved it. Now you see my conundrum.
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re promotions: i'm in the same mindset as fudgy. although i haven't been at my current job nearly long enough to warrant a promotion, in my current situation, I can't imagine taking on more responsibility for more compensation. i make enough to live how i want to and have time to do the things i want to do outside of work. more money for more responsibility would be a downgrade imo.

Originally Posted by globecanvas
In that case, you should ask for 50% additional compensation, resulting in only 25% additional work. Sweet deal you got there!
ugh.

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Originally Posted by Gramercy
Don't you 'work' like 3 hours a day? You go on lunchtime rides all the time. Must be nice! Congrats on the promotion.
He's got to remind them he recently upgraded to Cat2 and more work = less training which may not = success...
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Lately, I just get more responsibility and no extra pay.
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Originally Posted by mike868y
re promotions: i'm in the same mindset as fudgy. although i haven't been at my current job nearly long enough to warrant a promotion, in my current situation, I can't imagine taking on more responsibility for more compensation. i make enough to live how i want to and have time to do the things i want to do outside of work. more money for more responsibility would be a downgrade imo.



ugh.
I have a similar mindset and often find myself being somewhat of an out lier, especially in my given field. Most friends also think it's weird that i no longer want to work 60 hour weeks. Been there, done that, and now I like to use my time in other areas. I do struggle with the fact that this might lead me down a path of mediocrity professionally but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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I guess I'm sort of on the flip side of that in my life at the moment. I am basically begging (not literally, but I have asked multiple times) my employer for more work, more responsibility. I don't care if I work 80 hour weeks and travel 5 days a week. Now that I'm not really training, and have a girlfriend that's long distance, I might as well work hard, get promotions and more money while I can. Plus I work better when I'm busier. When I'm bored, work sucks hardcore.
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Originally Posted by misterwaterfall
I have a similar mindset and often find myself being somewhat of an out lier, especially in my given field. Most friends also think it's weird that i no longer want to work 60 hour weeks. Been there, done that, and now I like to use my time in other areas. I do struggle with the fact that this might lead me down a path of mediocrity professionally but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
professional mediocrity and personal happiness<<<<<professional excellence and personal mediocrity.

granted, it's all a spectrum, but the drive for more money more money more money among young people my age surprises me. i obviously understand this all changes with a wife, kid, etc.
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Originally Posted by mike868y
professional mediocrity and personal happiness<<<<<professional excellence and personal mediocrity.

granted, it's all a spectrum, but the drive for more money more money more money among young people my age surprises me. i obviously understand this all changes with a wife, kid, etc.
It's not always about money. Some people just want to succeed in their career as much as possible. I can't stand the thought of cranking away repetitive crap at my desk my entire life, like I see some people do in my office. At guess at some point that's desirable, and I know I have enjoyed it at times when I was training because it allowed me to get the hours in. But now I'm striving for more.

I agree with your statement about happiness though, if you can find personal happiness. I find it easier to work more than to be happy, haha.
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Originally Posted by himespau
Maybe that's why they promoted you. They didn't want to do the firing, so they put you in the position where you had to take care of that, at which point your position will be dissolved and you'll return to your older position but now the 3 of you will need to find a way to also do the work of those other 2 FTEs that they're getting rid of (but not the workload) and not replacing. Or am I too much of a cynic about these things?
I can tell that you are a seasoned corporate warrior. The reward for good work, is more work.
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Originally Posted by Creatre
It's not always about money. Some people just want to succeed in their career as much as possible. I can't stand the thought of cranking away repetitive crap at my desk my entire life, like I see some people do in my office. At guess at some point that's desirable, and I know I have enjoyed it at times when I was training because it allowed me to get the hours in. But now I'm striving for more.

I agree with your statement about happiness though, if you can find personal happiness. I find it easier to work more than to be happy, haha.
yeah exactly, if working hard and succeeding at work make you happy, go for it. for me, that's not where i'm at right now. maybe this is a sign i'm in the wrong line of work? who knows. but right now i'm extremely happy with my work/life balance.
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees
I can tell that you are a seasoned corporate warrior. The reward for good work, is more work.
yup
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I'm also in a position where a pay change would need to be drastic to move the needle in my quality of life, either direction really. Like if they said here's 100% more pay, I don't think my life would change at all.
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A promotion here means less work, same pay, but more meetings. Our on call makes up the difference, which this year has been easy money. Next year not so much.
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At a previous job I had topped out at my range, but I was good at what I did and really enjoyed it. Executive management kept nagging me to take a first level supervisor job and I finally caved. I got a corner office, 5% raise, and recurring bouts of gastritis. Within a few years I left the office altogether.
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I am hourly so more work means more cash, but I'd trade it for time.
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I'd rather just ride my bike. I finally expressed sincere interest in a full time engineering position. We need the money right now, but I just wish there were serious part time engineering positions. That would still be enough money. I don't want big responsibility/promotions etc. I just want to make a decent living so I can do what I actually care about while I'm not working.
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