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Old 04-06-17 | 08:59 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the tool may look like that takes this lockring off? Unfortunately this is the second locknut above a top race which with no wrench flats. I opened this up before, but I forget how and I am afraid that a screwdriver + hammer would deform the ring to the extent it would not mate well with what goes on top. It has a chrome finish on the sides, so a rag with channel locks is not readily feasible.
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Old 04-06-17 | 09:13 PM
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The right tool is a hook spanner wit a tight radius like a Hozan Lock Ring Tool. But the quick way is to just remove the lock ring with a channel lock pliers and replace it with a spacer. Far easier to set the bearing adjustment this way. Andy
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agree with Andy. you can also use a flathead screwdriver and a hammer to start turning that piece.
I keep these on some of my old bikes. Less chance of the headset loosening over time with two locknuts. But this is mostly a non-existent problem with a well-adjusted headset anyway.
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Old 04-07-17 | 06:48 AM
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I have seen a Channelock-type plier with one jaw ground down to make a hook to engage the notches of such a ring, but of course the proper hook spanner tool is preferable.
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Hook spanner, like below. You need the size to be close. There are also hook spanners with a swivel that allows you to apply it to a range of notched locknut sizes. (Pic added).



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Old 04-07-17 | 10:16 AM
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I have a couple of brass drifts that come in handy for this sort of thing. There is little chance of damaging the steel ring because the brass deforms first.
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This tool used to come with every new Raleigh 3-Speed sold:





And then there is this one, the Park Tool HCW-5:


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Originally Posted by ExpertTools
This tool used to come with every new Raleigh 3-Speed sold:

Will probably work


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And then there is this one, the Park Tool HCW-5:
Probably won't work. The diameter on the hook spanner is too large. It won't fit right.
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I have picked up numerous sizes of hook spanners at garage and estate sales. For one of my "aero" headset nuts a tap wrench fit perfect after a little filing.

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If you're going to be fiddling around with vintage bikes (it's an addiction) you're going to need to start collecting the various tools required. Start soaking those threads in penetrating oil. Order a hook spanner wrench. By the time it arrives the threads should be nice & ready.
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and learn to ignore any poster whose genius solution is to hammer on a screwdriver instead of sourcing the right tools. If they can't afford even the most simple hand tools within the hobby of working on bikes how much success/experience do they have in life??

Always use the right tool for the job. A kid working at McDondlds can afford bike tools.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Probably won't work. The diameter on the hook spanner is too large. It won't fit right.
I've used the HCW-5 to remove one of these. It didn't work WELL... but it did work.


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and learn to ignore any poster whose genius solution is to hammer on a screwdriver instead of sourcing the right tools. If they can't afford even the most simple hand tools within the hobby of working on bikes how much success/experience do they have in life??

Always use the right tool for the job. A kid working at McDondlds can afford bike tools.
Using a punch/drift made of a softer metal than the (likely) steel lockring will do no damage to the lockring itself and will most definitely do the job.

I use a drift to disassemble the top half of freewheels all of the time because the actual tool for the job, a pin spanner, is woefully inadequate to remove the lockring. A few taps with a punch brings it right apart.
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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr
I have seen a Channelock-type plier with one jaw ground down to make a hook to engage the notches of such a ring, but of course the proper hook spanner tool is preferable.

I've got an old Nishiki with a similar headset. I filed an old set of channel locks as per suggestions on this forum. Worked fine. Then, as luck would have it, I found the right Hozen tool at a swap meet. And as a bonus, the other side was exactly what I'd been needing/borrowing from a neighbor for my Peugeot BB's.



https://www.amazon.com/Lockring-Head.../dp/B0017SE6ZY

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