What's the difference in higher-grade components?
#26
It's worth reading this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-mechanics/165031-why-do-some-casettes-loudly-whirr-others-quietly-purr.html
It started as a question about why some freehubs/freewheels are quiet and others loud. What it evolved into was a discussion about various levels and brands of component with some very specific information about differences between them.
It started as a question about why some freehubs/freewheels are quiet and others loud. What it evolved into was a discussion about various levels and brands of component with some very specific information about differences between them.
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The cassettes most likely don't but perhaps the freehub does.
Out on rides with my club, I've noticed that some of the bikes' freehubs tick (much) louder than mine (Shimano). Since they're dedicated roadies, and campagnolo seems to be what they (the guys in my club) prefer, it's probably true that they are louder.
Out on rides with my club, I've noticed that some of the bikes' freehubs tick (much) louder than mine (Shimano). Since they're dedicated roadies, and campagnolo seems to be what they (the guys in my club) prefer, it's probably true that they are louder.
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Originally Posted by askrom
I started that thread, and no-one answered my basic question: Do Campy cassettes loudly whirr?
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Originally Posted by UCSDbikeAnarchy
Middle of the road is a good place to be, IMO. my road bike has Sora junk, and I can feel a huge difference when shifting on someones bike with tiagra/105. Althouhg admittedly DA stuff proably does work a bit better and saves some wieght but not worth the extra money. In terms of MTB I have ridden hard-tail treks with both deore/lx and xt/xtr. In pretty much all conditions, they shifted the exact same. The only real different was the weight.
my current mtb has sram x.9, but only beacuse I got a really good deal. I test rode a x.7 bike and it felt fine. Someone else sugested that you look for the best, and then take it a notch down. I would look for the worse, and then take it a step or two up. (of course in some cases that might end you up in the same place).
There is certainly a sweet spot in the middle where the quality is high and the price is fairly low.
my current mtb has sram x.9, but only beacuse I got a really good deal. I test rode a x.7 bike and it felt fine. Someone else sugested that you look for the best, and then take it a notch down. I would look for the worse, and then take it a step or two up. (of course in some cases that might end you up in the same place).
There is certainly a sweet spot in the middle where the quality is high and the price is fairly low.
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>>>>Middle of the road is a good place to be, IMO. my road bike has Sora junk, and I can feel a huge difference when shifting on someones bike with tiagra/105. Althouhg admittedly DA stuff proably does work a bit better and saves some wieght but not worth the extra money. In terms of MTB I have ridden hard-tail treks with both deore/lx and xt/xtr. In pretty much all conditions, they shifted the exact same. The only real different was the weight.<<<<<
Interestingly enough, one of my older steel bikes has an 8sp SORA drivetrain on it...upgraded from the 6sp downtube stuff it came with 15 years ago and it was sydney who said there was nothing wrong with SORA if it was looked after. It was just against the OCP laws is all and who actually gives a s**t what they think anyways, right? Remeber that SORA even thought the entry level for road groups is actually quite a bit higher up the ladder than the entry level MTB stuff. Is it better than my 105 bike...nope. difference in weight and I expect it might not wear as well, but 15 years from now, what do I care if I have to upgrade again?
Interestingly enough, one of my older steel bikes has an 8sp SORA drivetrain on it...upgraded from the 6sp downtube stuff it came with 15 years ago and it was sydney who said there was nothing wrong with SORA if it was looked after. It was just against the OCP laws is all and who actually gives a s**t what they think anyways, right? Remeber that SORA even thought the entry level for road groups is actually quite a bit higher up the ladder than the entry level MTB stuff. Is it better than my 105 bike...nope. difference in weight and I expect it might not wear as well, but 15 years from now, what do I care if I have to upgrade again?
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I've read every response to the post. It's not surprising that there wasn't a single response to the post that identified a single demonstrable difference in performance between group sets. I'm not saying there aren't differences, but let's face it, none of us knowwhat they are beyond the price difference and the bling. For example people talk about more expensive components having "crisper" shifting. This sounds like a marketing line. What is the measurement standard for "crispness" when applied to shifter / derailleur performance. Whatever the physical and material differences are between the component sets, wouldn't it be great if we really knew what they were? It's those differences that create the various ranges of consumer experiences with products. We might describe something as better, crisper, faster, shinier, or more durable, but those are only attributes we apply to how we feel about a product after we've interacted with it.
Maybe we can get a post from someone that knows what the real differences are that makes someone feel that somnething shifts crisper.
Maybe we can get a post from someone that knows what the real differences are that makes someone feel that somnething shifts crisper.
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Of course my DA has crisper shifting then my Ultegra. DA=400 miles Ultegra=7500 miles. I dont think someone switching from Ultegra to DA will be any faster. Its like washing your car,well of course that makes it faster.




