Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

What's the difference in higher-grade components?

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

What's the difference in higher-grade components?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-22-06 | 01:24 PM
  #26  
askrom's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
It's worth reading this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-mechanics/165031-why-do-some-casettes-loudly-whirr-others-quietly-purr.html

It started as a question about why some freehubs/freewheels are quiet and others loud. What it evolved into was a discussion about various levels and brands of component with some very specific information about differences between them.
I started that thread, and no-one answered my basic question: Do Campy cassettes loudly whirr?
askrom is offline  
Reply
Old 01-22-06 | 02:12 PM
  #27  
Videre non videri
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,208
Likes: 4
From: Gothenburg, Sweden

Bikes: 1 road bike (simple, light), 1 TT bike (could be more aero, could be lighter), 1 all-weather commuter and winter bike, 1 Monark 828E ergometer indoor bike

The cassettes most likely don't but perhaps the freehub does.
Out on rides with my club, I've noticed that some of the bikes' freehubs tick (much) louder than mine (Shimano). Since they're dedicated roadies, and campagnolo seems to be what they (the guys in my club) prefer, it's probably true that they are louder.
CdCf is offline  
Reply
Old 01-22-06 | 03:46 PM
  #28  
Retro Grouch's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 30,225
Likes: 649
From: St Peters, Missouri

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

Originally Posted by askrom
I started that thread, and no-one answered my basic question: Do Campy cassettes loudly whirr?
No. At least not compared with Chris King, some Hugi hubs and similar ones that use the star wheel ratchet mechanism.
Retro Grouch is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-06 | 11:09 AM
  #29  
Ivan Hanz's Avatar
Man of Leisure
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
From: Betwixt the Scioto and Olentangy
Originally Posted by HillRider
Absolute nonsense.


Including tires and paint and bar tape and saddles and cable housing?

Sniff sniff I miss sydney. He would have seconded that.
Ivan Hanz is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-06 | 01:21 PM
  #30  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 808
Likes: 11
From: Tucson, AZ
Originally Posted by UCSDbikeAnarchy
Middle of the road is a good place to be, IMO. my road bike has Sora junk, and I can feel a huge difference when shifting on someones bike with tiagra/105. Althouhg admittedly DA stuff proably does work a bit better and saves some wieght but not worth the extra money. In terms of MTB I have ridden hard-tail treks with both deore/lx and xt/xtr. In pretty much all conditions, they shifted the exact same. The only real different was the weight.

my current mtb has sram x.9, but only beacuse I got a really good deal. I test rode a x.7 bike and it felt fine. Someone else sugested that you look for the best, and then take it a notch down. I would look for the worse, and then take it a step or two up. (of course in some cases that might end you up in the same place).

There is certainly a sweet spot in the middle where the quality is high and the price is fairly low.
I totally agree. I wouldn't buy the cheapest parts, but the expensive parts advantages IMO are indistinguishable to any but the most ardent riders. You can't go wrong if you stay in the middle.
bikemeister is offline  
Reply
Old 01-25-06 | 07:26 AM
  #31  
jbrians's Avatar
crusty
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 309
Likes: 0
From: Guelph, ON

Bikes: Giant Kronos, Miele Appolo, Miele 12 spd, Diamondback Hybrid

>>>>Middle of the road is a good place to be, IMO. my road bike has Sora junk, and I can feel a huge difference when shifting on someones bike with tiagra/105. Althouhg admittedly DA stuff proably does work a bit better and saves some wieght but not worth the extra money. In terms of MTB I have ridden hard-tail treks with both deore/lx and xt/xtr. In pretty much all conditions, they shifted the exact same. The only real different was the weight.<<<<<

Interestingly enough, one of my older steel bikes has an 8sp SORA drivetrain on it...upgraded from the 6sp downtube stuff it came with 15 years ago and it was sydney who said there was nothing wrong with SORA if it was looked after. It was just against the OCP laws is all and who actually gives a s**t what they think anyways, right? Remeber that SORA even thought the entry level for road groups is actually quite a bit higher up the ladder than the entry level MTB stuff. Is it better than my 105 bike...nope. difference in weight and I expect it might not wear as well, but 15 years from now, what do I care if I have to upgrade again?
jbrians is offline  
Reply
Old 01-25-06 | 08:08 AM
  #32  
Don Cook's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 816
Likes: 1
From: Memphis TN

Bikes: Raleigh, Benotto, Schwinn, Trek

I've read every response to the post. It's not surprising that there wasn't a single response to the post that identified a single demonstrable difference in performance between group sets. I'm not saying there aren't differences, but let's face it, none of us knowwhat they are beyond the price difference and the bling. For example people talk about more expensive components having "crisper" shifting. This sounds like a marketing line. What is the measurement standard for "crispness" when applied to shifter / derailleur performance. Whatever the physical and material differences are between the component sets, wouldn't it be great if we really knew what they were? It's those differences that create the various ranges of consumer experiences with products. We might describe something as better, crisper, faster, shinier, or more durable, but those are only attributes we apply to how we feel about a product after we've interacted with it.

Maybe we can get a post from someone that knows what the real differences are that makes someone feel that somnething shifts crisper.
Don Cook is offline  
Reply
Old 01-25-06 | 08:57 AM
  #33  
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 4,665
Likes: 0
From: So Cal

Bikes: 2012 Trek Madone 6.2

Of course my DA has crisper shifting then my Ultegra. DA=400 miles Ultegra=7500 miles. I dont think someone switching from Ultegra to DA will be any faster. Its like washing your car,well of course that makes it faster.
shokhead is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.