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Old 01-26-12, 06:14 PM
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newbie question regarding SPD clipless pedal

I know this will be a very dumb question to many, so please bear with me.

I had a LBS put in some used clipless/platform pedals. It obviously didn't come with cleats. They told me it's SPD style and the cleats usually come with the shoes.

Now I'm realizing that perhaps the LBS told me false information. I've only see cleats sold with pedals or by itself. Never with the shoes. In addition, I was told I need to figure out the specific cleats that work with my pedal. There isn't just a universal "SPD" style cleats.

Which is true? Thanks.
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Naming the brand of pedals will help.

Yeah, they jacked you, every pair of pedals I've purchased came with cleats.
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Did you buy the used clipless pedals from the LBS or just bring them in for them to install? Yes, new Shimano pedals come with the cleats packaged with them. I've never seen any shoes that came packaged with cleats as how would the shoe maker know what pedal style you are using???

If you can post a picture of the pedals, especially a good view of the clip-in system, people here are very helpful. Without a picture, it would just be pure guessing. If the LBS sold you these used and told you those tall tales, I would run away from them and seek out another store...
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I bought the pedal from their used bin. Will try to get a pic..

No branding on the pedal but a model number carved into the side.. I googled it and it turned up some UK store.. looks like some off-brand that's sold over there..

So basically there is no chance of me buying cleats only that might potentially fit into the pedal's clip? Well on the other hand, the cost of the cleats is almost the price of new pedals.

I really thought when they say SPD pedal, it's just a universal style for the industry...
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I knew they made reels for fishing , didn't know they made paddles,
..Canoe or Kayak?


any way .. might it be a Wellgo .. somewhat like Shimano, but Not.

Pictures needed.

the 2 bolt mounting to the shoe is a common, but cleats are with the pedal.

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Yep, every time I've gotten a pair included, they've been with the pedals. If they are a standard SPD, they are pretty common. This is what they look like:


SPD-R's are different, however.
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Originally Posted by boogman
I really thought when they say SPD pedal, it's just a universal style for the industry...
In a way. I think it stands for "Shimano Pedalling Dynamics" or something like that. There are a lot of compatible pedals, shoes & cleats on the market from other brands.
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If they were used, it's likely the cleats that came with them are still attached to the original owner's shoes. I spy new cleats at the various online cycle reatailers in the $5-10 range. SPD is a specific style of MTB cleat, and all SPD-MTB cleats are the same. I think Shimano's road cleats are also called 'SPD', but they look very obviously different. Other MTB cleats that look similar will be called something other than 'SPD'.
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restate : the mount is a standard, Time, Speed play, Richey, Wellgo and Shimano
will all bolt to the shoes But the cleat and pedals are paired ..
cross over is not a given.
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Currently using 98A SPD cleats that came with one of several pairs of Nashbar/Performance pedals. (Wellgo?) Similar-looking cleats on another pair of shoes are VP 101. (Victor Pedals)
SPD mountain-style pedals - whether Shimano or generic - are not all exactly the same. Nor are the various cleats that are available. Interchangeability is common but not guaranteed.

From the Wellgo website, specs for a pair of Road pedals: 98A or Shimano 51 Compatible.
Some 'road' pedals could be described as 'mountain style'.
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From the Wellgo website, specs for a pair of Road pedals: 98A or Shimano 51 Compatible.
Some 'road' pedals could be described as 'mountain style'.
I think you are talking about this type, though I never considered them "mountain style". I just figured it was the original SPD standard.
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Turns out fietsbob and I are both right, sort of. Check out this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...himano-trouble

Some, but not all, Wellgo pedals work fine with Shimano cleats, and some, but not all, Wellgo cleats work fine with Shimano pedals. The thread describes people's results with various specific combinations of products.
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Originally Posted by Yo Spiff
I think you are talking about this type, though I never considered them "mountain style". I just figured it was the original SPD standard.
YOu're right, not at all a mountain style pedal. They just use the same style mechanism.
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Originally Posted by dave35
If they were used, it's likely the cleats that came with them are still attached to the original owner's shoes. I spy new cleats at the various online cycle reatailers in the $5-10 range. SPD is a specific style of MTB cleat, and all SPD-MTB cleats are the same. I think Shimano's road cleats are also called 'SPD', but they look very obviously different. Other MTB cleats that look similar will be called something other than 'SPD'.
The road pedals/cleats are SPD-SL.
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Originally Posted by mprelaw
The road pedals/cleats are SPD-SL.
Current Shimano road pedals are SPD-SL and use the same 3-bolt triangulat pattern as Look pedals. There were previous Shimano road pedals that used the same two bolt cleat attachment as their MTB pedals and the cleats were almost identical and would interchange.
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Of course the pedals didn't come with cleats, if you got them from the used pedals bin. Bring the bike to the LBS, have them sell you the cleats that work on the pedals and mount them to your shoes. Most likely the pedals use the Shimano 98A cleat that is used with Shimano mountain bike pedals. That is usually what people mean when they say "SPD", because the Shimano road SPD cleat isn't very popular. If that is the case here, then the cleat will cost around $15 a pair, maybe be labeled Wellgo or Shimano, your shoes need to have the nut plate (small rectangular plate, threaded for the cleat's two bolts, fits in the sole of the shoe). My LBS gave me a pair of nut plates free. The 98A cleat will work with various makes of pedal, Shimano mountain bike pedals but also Wellgo "SPD compatible" pedals and others made by Wellgo, like Ritchey. These include some road pedals (single sided, lighter than two-sided mountain pedals).
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Here is the picture of the clip.



If compatible with normal MTB SPD cleats, where can I get some for cheap? I looked at new Shimano ones and they go for $20+ a pair.. might as well get a new pair of pedals at that price point.. Thanks
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
I knew they made reels for fishing , didn't know they made paddles,
..Canoe or Kayak?
Crew!
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Both the Shimano or the Wellgo cleats will work with those pedals. The photo that "Yo Spiff" posted is what you are looking for, but they don't necessarily have to say Shimano on them. $15.00 on amazon will get you some.

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thanks for all the input!
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Originally Posted by boogman
I really thought when they say SPD pedal, it's just a universal style for the industry...
SPD stands for "Shimano Pedaling Dynamics". It's the Kleenex or Frigidaire of bike pedals.

The good news is that, even without seeing your pedals, I can be 95% certain they are either Shimano or Welgo pedals. New replacement cleats are easily sourced, cost around $15.00, and are close enough that either brand will work with either pedal. You'll want new ones anyway because worn cleats don't release very well.

You'll also, of course, need a pair of SPD compatable shoes.
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You'll also, of course, need a pair of SPD compatable shoes.
I just epoxy some cleats to my sneakers.
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Originally Posted by jyl
Most likely the pedals use the Shimano 98A cleat that is used with Shimano mountain bike pedals. The 98A cleat will work with various makes of pedal, Shimano mountain bike pedals but also Wellgo "SPD compatible" pedals and others made by Wellgo, like Ritchey. These include some road pedals (single sided, lighter than two-sided mountain pedals).
First the "98A" is a Wellgo cleat, not Shimano. Shimano MTB cleats are either SM-SH51 (single release) or SM-SH52 (multi release). Second, the Wellgo 98A cleat is "compatible" with the Shimano models but not perfectly interchangable. My LBS called it a "B-fit" and that correct. Finally, there are other Wellgo cleats made for their private label pedals that are unique and proprietary and won't interchange with either their own 98A or Shimano 51/52 cleats. I once had a pair of their "97" cleats that fit nothing but a pedal made for Nashbar.
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Originally Posted by Yo Spiff
I just epoxy some cleats to my sneakers.
If you were a real man you'd superglue them to the bottoms of your feet.
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Originally Posted by Yo Spiff
I just epoxy some cleats to my sneakers.
I'm sure you are kidding, but I did wonder if that could work.
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