Sram Red combining with Sram Force questions
03-19-13 | 07:06 PM
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squatchy
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Sram Red combining with Sram Force questions
So I have a 2010 S-Works Roubaix and my friend just bought a 2012, same bike outside of his has a better groupo. I rode his tonight for a while so we could compare the 2 bikes. I won't go into frame comparisons because I am interested in starting to switch over to Red on my bike and have questions in that regard. I noticed his switched gears a little faster. Especially the front derailure.
His crankset is Red "hyperglide" were as mine are S=Works.
I noticed a bit better performance on my bike when I switched from a Shimano cassett to a Sram casset. At that point I figured that even though they are compatible, matched sets work better with each other. Although it could have just been an upgrade because of more recent technology.
On the Red tonight I noticed the distance the trigger had to move to change gears on the rear was a much shoter distance than my Force. I also noticed that it jumped from small to big in front faster. I didn't feel any braking difference. So here's my questions Can I just buy new derailures and keep my brifters for now until I can get them at a latter point? Will they work together with each other or will it only work Red with Red?
Is the faster front shifting because of the cranks or the derailure?
Lastly. How can I tell the difference of the 2 different generations of "Red" ? And how much better is this last round of Red to the Previous? Also I had heard one of the front derailures didn't work well when it first came out. Was that first or second generation, and is it all good now?
Thanks
Ryan
His crankset is Red "hyperglide" were as mine are S=Works.
I noticed a bit better performance on my bike when I switched from a Shimano cassett to a Sram casset. At that point I figured that even though they are compatible, matched sets work better with each other. Although it could have just been an upgrade because of more recent technology.
On the Red tonight I noticed the distance the trigger had to move to change gears on the rear was a much shoter distance than my Force. I also noticed that it jumped from small to big in front faster. I didn't feel any braking difference. So here's my questions Can I just buy new derailures and keep my brifters for now until I can get them at a latter point? Will they work together with each other or will it only work Red with Red?
Is the faster front shifting because of the cranks or the derailure?
Lastly. How can I tell the difference of the 2 different generations of "Red" ? And how much better is this last round of Red to the Previous? Also I had heard one of the front derailures didn't work well when it first came out. Was that first or second generation, and is it all good now?
Thanks
Ryan
03-24-13 | 10:46 AM
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My apologies upfront for not answering your question. As I read through your post I was constantly asking myself "why is this guy upgrading?".
In the end it is none of business why anyone would upgrade their bike but in my head I question how practical it would be to upgrade components that are working fine. At least I believe your current components are working fine as you did not state anything that would lead a reader to believe otherwise.
My recommendations are as follows:
1. Ride what you have until you wear them out and then upgrade. Your current components might last another year or three and in that time who knows what technological advancements will be made.
2. Save your money so that when your components do wear out you will have enough to buy whichever tier of components you desire.
3. If the temptation to purchase something is so great, donate some cash to charity to keep that cash from burning a hole in your pocket.
In the end, unless you are racing (and even then it is questionable) you probably will see little benefit for the money you spent upgrading unless your current parts are worn out.
-j
In the end it is none of business why anyone would upgrade their bike but in my head I question how practical it would be to upgrade components that are working fine. At least I believe your current components are working fine as you did not state anything that would lead a reader to believe otherwise.
My recommendations are as follows:
1. Ride what you have until you wear them out and then upgrade. Your current components might last another year or three and in that time who knows what technological advancements will be made.
2. Save your money so that when your components do wear out you will have enough to buy whichever tier of components you desire.
3. If the temptation to purchase something is so great, donate some cash to charity to keep that cash from burning a hole in your pocket.
In the end, unless you are racing (and even then it is questionable) you probably will see little benefit for the money you spent upgrading unless your current parts are worn out.
-j
