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Old 06-20-15, 09:24 AM
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stronglight crank puller help

My local bike shop sold me an original stronglight crank puller but it is missing the inner bolt that pushes the crank arm off. At the hardware the 10mm bolts were too small and the 12mm bolts seemed to large. The 12mm goes in a turn or so and stops. Maybe the wrong thread pitch? I tried course, fine, and extra fine thread in the 12 mm with no luck.

Does anyone have an original stronglight puller (23.3mm version) that can stick a caliper on the inner bolt and tell me what size it is and what thread pitch if possible? Hopefully this is something I can find available locally if I can figure out what size it is.

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I have one and will try to remember to measure it for you at my next opportunity, which will not be until Monday. If you don't have an answer before then, please bump this thread on Monday evening to remind me.
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I cant recall if this is a 'Stronglight' branded puller, but it it is 23.3 for the old Stronglight crank arms. I hope this is of some help.





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My Stronglight puller has M12x1 threading, which would be extra-fine threading for such diameter.
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OK, thank you everyone. I think maybe the threads are a little mashed. Maybe I should try to force the 12mm extra fine bolt in there and it will straighten out the threads? That was my initial instinct when trying the different bolts, but I thought I should make sure before forcing it in there.
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I wouldn't force the bolt. Always a chance of stripping the crank threads.
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pontius -

a metric thread gauge is something no bicycle workshop should be without. a person has got to know what they are working with...

quite inexpensive too.

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Yeah, I should check it with a gauge first.

Trotsky, the bolt I'm talking about threads into the tool, not the crank. I would run the risk of ruining the tool, though, or have to try tapping new threads or something.
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lettuce hope the tool available to you from the lbs was not so because of damaged threads.
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Originally Posted by pontius
My local bike shop sold me an original stronglight crank puller but it is missing the inner bolt that pushes the crank arm off. At the hardware the 10mm bolts were too small and the 12mm bolts seemed to large. The 12mm goes in a turn or so and stops. Maybe the wrong thread pitch? I tried course, fine, and extra fine thread in the 12 mm with no luck.

Does anyone have an original stronglight puller (23.3mm version) that can stick a caliper on the inner bolt and tell me what size it is and what thread pitch if possible? Hopefully this is something I can find available locally if I can figure out what size it is.

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Where are you located? I live in north coastal San Diego County and have a standing offer to lend my Stronglight puller and a few other specialty tools.
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If you do force a 12 x 1 bolt into the tool to chase the threads out, grind a groove or flute (or two) through the threads so there's a bit of a cutting edge (probably rather dull, but better than nothing) and space for removed material to accumulate. And use plenty of oil (the flutes will serve as an oil reservoir as well).
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Mine fits on a park tool CCP-1, if you can find one of those...
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Originally Posted by curbtender
Mine fits on a park tool CCP-1, if you can find one of those...

OOOH, good call on that.

I didn't even think to check that when I went down to the shop to use my thread guage, though I'll mention that Park definitely changed the threading when their pullers got revised (with thicker handles and with the TA spigot eliminated) many years back.
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Originally Posted by curbtender
Mine fits on a park tool CCP-1, if you can find one of those...
what a great tip.

you just helped many folks!

never would have occurred to my solid concrete "braine"...
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I have two pullers that will fit Stronglight cranks. I only need one, these days...

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Originally Posted by randyjawa
I have two pullers that will fit Stronglight cranks. I only need one, these days..
But that's a 23mm puller. The stronglight is 23.3mm or thereabouts. Won't the park tool strip off the top of the threads? Or are you saying the bolt from the park tool fits in the stronglight extractor?

I checked the stronglight extractor with a pitch gauge and it is indeed a 1.00 pitch. This is quite hard to find in a 12mm bolt. Extra fine is common but is 1.25 pitch. 1.00 is considered super fine and the only source I could find online was in the UK.
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But that's a 23mm puller. The stronglight is 23.3mm or thereabouts.
Look closely at both threaded puller diameters - one is 23mm and the other 23.3mm. And, yes, the bolts are different in each.
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General weirdness. If you don't mind my asking, why buy a tool with a lost part? Why did the shop even charge you for it? Why not save your self a lot of hair pulling and invest in one of these????

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edit: …I should never type first thing, before the coffee takes hold and general fog lifts.

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Because I was there and the guy rummaged through some drawers and found 80% of the tool. He told me he would come across the bolt and keep it for me if I came by in a few days. For $8.00 kit seems like a reasonable thing to do. I have a lot more time than money.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa
Look closely at both threaded puller diameters - one is 23mm and the other 23.3mm. And, yes, the bolts are different in each.
If that is a park ccp-1, I read some other threads on that tool and everyone is saying it is 22mm and 23mm. Can you put a caliper on it to check?
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Originally Posted by pontius
Because I was there and the guy rummaged through some drawers and found 80% of the tool. He told me he would come across the bolt and keep it for me if I came by in a few days. For $8.00 kit seems like a reasonable thing to do. I have a lot more time than money.
Yeah, good on him, and you. My post was a little cranky. Apologies. I hope a 12 mm X 1 fits.
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If that is a park ccp-1, I read some other threads on that tool and everyone is saying it is 22mm and 23mm. Can you put a caliper on it to check?
You are correct, they are both 23.mm, which explains something that happened years ago. I did strip a Stronglight crank, drive side, of course, but at least I learned how to "fudge" removal without screwing up the crank any worse.
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Yeah, good on him, and you. My post was a little cranky. Apologies. I hope a 12 mm X 1 fits.
When observed under a stronglight, this whole thread is cranky.

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Originally Posted by randyjawa
I have two pullers that will fit Stronglight cranks. I only need one, these days...

Originally Posted by pontius
But that's a 23mm puller. The stronglight is 23.3mm or thereabouts. Won't the park tool strip off the top of the threads?
While some people report success using a 23mm puller on 23.35mm Stronglight arms, this practice may fail, leaving the arm permanently stripped. As Surtherlands (4th Edition) warns:


Source: Sutherland's 4th Edition
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Originally Posted by curbtender
Mine fits on a park tool CCP-1, if you can find one of those...
I just tried my tools here. Neither the threaded handle from a double-headed Park CCP-1 nor from a modern CCP-2 will thread into the outer portion of my Stronglight puller.
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