Maillard Hubs advice
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Maillard Hubs advice
Gents, I dusted off my old Expedition project the other day and found the rear hub flange has crumbled apart. Apparently from garage rot 
The hub is a 40 hole Specialized-branded hub laced to a decent Super Champion rim. I think Sansin may have made the hub for Specialized?
Anyway, 40 hole hubs do not appear to be readily abundant. I'm looking at a 40 hole Maillard Atom hub off a Schwinn Voyager to lace to the Super Champion. Is this a suitable enough replacement? I'm not as concerned about "correctness" as I am about a decent hub that spins well and withstands the miles.
Thanks all!

The hub is a 40 hole Specialized-branded hub laced to a decent Super Champion rim. I think Sansin may have made the hub for Specialized?
Anyway, 40 hole hubs do not appear to be readily abundant. I'm looking at a 40 hole Maillard Atom hub off a Schwinn Voyager to lace to the Super Champion. Is this a suitable enough replacement? I'm not as concerned about "correctness" as I am about a decent hub that spins well and withstands the miles.
Thanks all!
Last edited by plonz; 12-03-15 at 09:16 PM.
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Of no help, but that sucks. Still regret letting go of my 36/40 spoke touring wheelset. Stupid.
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That's a big mess. Sounds like a Maillard Atom Bomb to me. Just go ahead and get some new wheels & forget about it. If it's a 27" wheel with a threaded hub just get a set of these .................. WheelMaster 27" Road Wheel Set - Sun Cr18 Rim, 36H, 5/6/7-Speed FW, QR, Silver
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That's a big mess. Sounds like a Maillard Atom Bomb to me. Just go ahead and get some new wheels & forget about it. If it's a 27" wheel with a threaded hub just get a set of these .................. WheelMaster 27" Road Wheel Set - Sun Cr18 Rim, 36H, 5/6/7-Speed FW, QR, Silver
Just to clarify, I have plenty of 36h wheels I can use. I'm just trying to stick with the original intent of the Expedition by using the 40h Super Champion rim that came on it. I think this is one of many little details that made the Expedition the touring icon it is.
If the Maillard Atom hub truly is a poor choice, I'll use another wheel and hold out for a better option.
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The Maillard hub should be fine, provided it's in decent condition. Many companies offer 40 hole hubs, including Shimano, Phil Wood, etc. and can still be had from e.g. "Tandems East:"
Tandems East Wheelsets, Rims and Hubs
Tandems East Wheelsets, Rims and Hubs
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The Maillard hub should be fine, provided it's in decent condition. Many companies offer 40 hole hubs, including Shimano, Phil Wood, etc. and can still be had from e.g. "Tandems East:"
Tandems East Wheelsets, Rims and Hubs
Tandems East Wheelsets, Rims and Hubs
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The Phil hubs are available for freewheels and can be had with narrower OLD spacing if you ask.
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That's a big mess. Sounds like a Maillard Atom Bomb to me. Just go ahead and get some new wheels & forget about it. If it's a 27" wheel with a threaded hub just get a set of these .................. WheelMaster 27" Road Wheel Set - Sun Cr18 Rim, 36H, 5/6/7-Speed FW, QR, Silver
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
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Gents, I dusted off my old Expedition project the other day and found the rear hub flange has crumbled apart. Apparently from garage rot 
The hub is a 40 hole Specialized-branded hub laced to a decent Super Champion rim. I think Sansin may have made the hub for Specialized?
Anyway, 40 hole hubs do not appear to be readily abundant. I'm looking at a 40 hole Maillard Atom hub off a Schwinn Voyager to lace to the Super Champion. Is this a suitable enough replacement? I'm not as concerned about "correctness" as I am about a decent hub that spins well and withstands the miles.
Thanks all!

The hub is a 40 hole Specialized-branded hub laced to a decent Super Champion rim. I think Sansin may have made the hub for Specialized?
Anyway, 40 hole hubs do not appear to be readily abundant. I'm looking at a 40 hole Maillard Atom hub off a Schwinn Voyager to lace to the Super Champion. Is this a suitable enough replacement? I'm not as concerned about "correctness" as I am about a decent hub that spins well and withstands the miles.
Thanks all!
For whatever it's worth- I've got a set of the Super Champion 40 spoke wheels laced to Phil hubs- they're the most impeccably spinning hubs I've ever experienced.
And for whatever it's worth, I had a Maillard/Matrix wheelset built for my Trek 400. The front wheel was a Maillard 700 laced to a Matrix rim from my Trek 720; the rear is the Matrix from the 720 and a Maillard 600 sealed bearing hub. It's a nice wheelset.
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
Last edited by The Golden Boy; 12-04-15 at 07:01 AM. Reason: misread. oops.
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Maillard could (and did) make some very nice hubs. I think we (as people 30-40 years down, running into old beat up stuff, running into a lot of the cheaper Maillard hubs and reading horror stories about the Maillard Helicomatic) forget that Maillard was a highly respected company that made highly respected products that were specced on top of the line bikes. As a 40 hole hub, almost by definition, is bound for a touring bike or a tandem, chances are really good that you're dealing with a high quality hub.
For whatever it's worth- I've got a set of the Super Champion 40 spoke wheels laced to Phil hubs- they're the most impeccably spinning hubs I've ever experienced.
And for whatever it's worth, I had a Maillard/Matrix wheelset built for my Trek 400. The front wheel was a Maillard 700 laced to a Matrix rim from my Trek 720; the rear is the Matrix from the 720 and a Maillard 600 sealed bearing hub. It's a nice wheelset.
For whatever it's worth- I've got a set of the Super Champion 40 spoke wheels laced to Phil hubs- they're the most impeccably spinning hubs I've ever experienced.
And for whatever it's worth, I had a Maillard/Matrix wheelset built for my Trek 400. The front wheel was a Maillard 700 laced to a Matrix rim from my Trek 720; the rear is the Matrix from the 720 and a Maillard 600 sealed bearing hub. It's a nice wheelset.
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If your looking to get the bike rolling the Maillard will work. You can re-use the old spokes. Is it an optimal hub for a touring bike? Probably not. Will get you from A to B? Yes.
Unfortunately that type of failure is very common with the Specialized/Sanshin hubs.
Unfortunately that type of failure is very common with the Specialized/Sanshin hubs.






