Help with older Dura Ace components

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11-28-24 | 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by smd4

It always was for me. Upgrading to 7400 brakes from 600 EX was a disappointment. I never got the brake responsiveness or feel until I went with 7700s.

Responsiveness and feel aren't power.

11-28-24 | 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesdak

Are these the same 7700 series brakes that so many times are referred too as too light and flexy by even the Shimano lovers? Many a time people will call the 7700 series the best of the Dura Ace groupsets but them mention that the brakes are the one weak point. Have you ever even ridden the parts you keep putting down all the time. I mean that seriously this time. I ride them all back to back on any given day and my actual experiences do not line up with what you say all the time. We all have our preferences but those do not change actual facts.

I had read the reviews about the 7800 brakes being better after building up two bikes with 7700. I never had a time where I thought 7700 brakes were lacking. So when I was building up my final DA bike before going Campy, I decided to go 7800 with a 7700 crankset. If I had to do again, I’d go with the 7800 crankset, it’s grown on me over the years. Riding back to back, the comparison, between the 7700 and 7800, the better stopping power of 7800 is very noticeable.

11-28-24 | 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kontact

Responsiveness and feel aren't power.

My 7700 brakes are powerful. Very powerful.

Happy?

11-28-24 | 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesdak

I have 7700 brakes since 2 years and never had any failures. And those who raced with me back in 1998 had Dura Ace 7700 where as I had back then was Ultegra 6500 brakes and none of them failed. I am wondering where did you hear or read that the brakes was a weak point when it never was the case. Lance Armstrong, Tom Boonen, Johan Museeuw, Cippolini and several other pros raced with 7700 and didn't have a single issue with them.

11-28-24 | 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by georges1

No one has mentioned any "failures". Riders don't generally bash the equipment sponsoring them, but it has already been acknowledged that later 7800 calipers were stiffer. Overall, 7700 was designed to be very light and to provide modulated speed control to for pro racing. Neither of which require the world's stiffest brake, and were such an increase in power over the single pivots of 6 years earlier that there was no reason to complain.

11-28-24 | 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by georges1

Same place where you've heard all about Campagnolo not working or being stiff enough, or, etc, etc...