Hey guys, this looks fairly unique, at least bridge does. I believe it may be Swiss but not positive.


Thoughts?

No idea, but it's beautiful.

I think the calbe grommets on the TT are more distinctive than the seat cluster or the BB shell. Do the ax shift lever use that unique Shimano boss (round with tab) or the more common style? Easiest way to tell if SW threaded just remove the crank arm and read the stamp on the cups, BUT IIRC if it's an ax BB unit not sure if Shimano ever made those in SW threads, check on velobase.

To my eye, that's just a generic piece of tubing with a couple holes cut into it. It might point to a builder but it's nothing I recognize. The lugs look like standard Bocama to me.

What makes you think it's Swiss? Can't be the BB thread, because Shimano never made a Swiss thread BB for AX, only British, French, and Italian. Swiss thread was all but dead by the time AX came out.

It is Tom thanks, and has those "crabby" pre Delta type brakes.

I was trying to determine an offer and help him know want he has, although the frame is great quality so in this case it's more about the provenance of the bike. But wanted to know if it could help determine if mass produced.

My understanding is it was owned by Ferdy(i) K ubler of Switzerland when he was older. And seller, son of original owner has as they brought with him to the UK. Apparently they were good friends and he gave dad the bike. Headbadge is "Typ Ferdy Kubler". But older bikes with his name were Team Tebag which no longer existed at this time. I believe with that serial it may be a one off someone made for him, but really don't know as I could locate no others.. #1 or 101.

OK, those are interesting details...how about a clear shot of the headbadge/decal? There's been a fair number of Swiss bikes with FR threading (Mondia did a lot this way) but if you could measure the ODs of the 3 main tubes that could determine if Imperial or metric 531.

[MENTION=17926]unworthy1[/MENTION] pm sent. Feel odd posting his pics.

The current Reynolds decal is English which would normally indicate Imperial diameter, but it could be a repaint.

Well I saw some pics of the graphics and tho Clearly this bike has something to do with Ferdy Kubler, I don't see anything that I'd say makes it "Swiss".