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Old 02-21-19 | 10:33 AM
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Has Shimano ever produced a sealed BB with Italian threading???

Before I start a disassembly of the '84 Pinarello, i'm anticipating possible problems.

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I think that’s an ‘S’ on the replacement BB

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...sure. I just put one into a rebuild about three months ago.
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https://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-UN55-Bottom-Bracket-73X110MM-Square-Taper?pt_source=googleads&pt_medium=cpc&pt_campaign=shopping_us&pt_keyword=&gclid=Cj0KCQiAtbnjBRDBAR IsAO3zDl-Btn7_ZA4DwJiOo5GRcnoIA68CWzZxUCvKkq1glLBL6s9IZDvBBS0aAhh3EALw_wcB

...the 70 mm ones are all Italian threaded. So RH threading both sides.

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https://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-UN...0aAhh3EALw_wcB

...the 73 mm ones are all Italian threaded. So RH threading both sides.
I think the 70mm ones are Italian threaded, but 68mm and 73mm are English: https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...9&category=347
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Old 02-21-19 | 12:30 PM
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+1. 73mm are typically ATB BB with English thread. Shimano offered their cartridge BB in Italian threading and 70mm width at Dura-Ace, 600 Ultegra, 105 and RX-100 levels.
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Shimano? they do presently... its the French & Swiss that got dropped..
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
I think the 70mm ones are Italian threaded, but 68mm and 73mm are English: https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...9&category=347
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Shimano? they do presently... its the French & Swiss that got dropped..
I don't know if they still do but they offered the square taper and Octalink cartridge BBs in Italian threading. Even the early Shimano external bearing BBs were offered in Italian threading.
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Shimano? they do presently... its the French & Swiss that got dropped..
By estimation, I'd say that Shimano stopped doing any French-threaded stuff around 1980.

Italian threaded bb's from Shimano are still in production, or are at least supplied by them, in many formats, including square-taper, Octalink and Hollowtech.

On a related note, I've never seen a French-threaded Shimano freewheel, only headsets.
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After you remove it and clean the frame real well, just put it back in there if it seems to spin ok. It won't hurt a thing. (This assumes you'll just reuse the same crankset.)

Wildwood, your tubular wheels (120mm rear) are my next project. I'm going to rebuild them and try to reuse as many spokes/nipples as I can.
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...FWIW, like [MENTION=20650]T-Mar[/MENTION] wrote, the Italian threaded ones were usually on stuff like 600 and Dura-Ace, so are often of high quality and worth reusing if they seem to spin well, like [MENTION=493684]SurferRosa[/MENTION] wrote.
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I have an Italian Octalink 6500 sitting here, inside a Colnago. It's destined to come out, but I agree with others, they're out there in square taper and Octalink, not sure about the Hollowtech II
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I just bought a 36x24 UN 55 from Amazon for my Eroica bike (Is that cheating? I feel kind of dirty.)
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
I just bought a 36x24 UN 55 from Amazon for my Eroica bike (Is that cheating? I feel kind of dirty.)
Well, at least your bottom bracket wont't "feel dirty".
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I have an Italian Octalink 6500 sitting here, inside a Colnago. It's destined to come out, but I agree with others, they're out there in square taper and Octalink, not sure about the Hollowtech II
I have a set of Italian Hollowtech II Dura Ace cups in my Colnago, so they do exist. At least they did a decade ago.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Well, at least your bottom bracket wont't "feel dirty".
Well after Eroica, I’ll probably take it out wipe it off and put it back in just to complete the vintage experience.
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I could sure drop some weight and ramp the Italian-ness up on the Cinzia if I switched the BB from cotter to square. Hoots just thinking about a folder with that mod!

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