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velofinds 06-25-16 03:24 PM

I now have three bikes in this thread and, if I may be completely honest, I couldn't be happier about it. "Retro roadies" to me represent the best of both worlds, old and new. Yes, I've jumped the shark. No, I'm not going back to DTs :D

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7666/2...5e756248_b.jpg

beechnutC23 06-25-16 04:16 PM

Not a rebuilt, but original steel frame on Campy Record 1st-generation Ergopower brifters.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...pslzm7ofmu.jpg

The only differences from original in that photo (taken last week) are the wheels and tires (replaced tubulars with clinchers in 2007), bar tape, bottle cages and a new Phil Wood bottom bracket when the original wore out (2009).

I still ride it, on average 2-3 times a month.

Mace350 06-26-16 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by billytwosheds (Post 18863194)
Thanks for these pics! My PX10 is second in line for a refinish, and I was curious what it might look like.

Was this paint or powder coat? Very nice.

Powdercoat, thanks for all the kind replies I have many hours in this bike.

abramj 06-28-16 11:59 AM

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My 92 Miyata 914 upgraded with STI, bladed wheels, new bar tape, and tires. Had to stretch the frame to fit the 8 speed cassette as I wanted to stay with the old 105 derailleur, but be capable of upgrading to a 10 speed setup in the future.


Attachment 529237

liquefied 06-29-16 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by abramj (Post 18875314)
My 92 Miyata 914 upgraded with STI, bladed wheels, new bar tape, and tires. Had to stretch the frame to fit the 8 speed cassette as I wanted to stay with the old 105 derailleur, but be capable of upgrading to a 10 speed setup in the future.


Attachment 529237

Looks like your downtube cable stops are flip-flopped.

abramj 06-30-16 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by liquefied (Post 18879161)
Looks like your downtube cable stops are flip-flopped.



OK, I'm first super impressed with your eagle eye.....It never crossed my mind that the adjusters should be hanging down. I never had a bike with this setup. So in my excitement to get it built, I just threw them on and never thought about it. But I just looked at the photo and noticed that if they were installed correctly, the cable would not be running right across the Miyata logo.


I will get that fixed soon. WOW :thumb:

liquefied 06-30-16 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by abramj (Post 18879360)
OK, I'm first super impressed with your eagle eye.....It never crossed my mind that the adjusters should be hanging down. I never had a bike with this setup. So in my excitement to get it built, I just threw them on and never thought about it. But I just looked at the photo and noticed that if they were installed correctly, the cable would not be running right across the Miyata logo.


I will get that fixed soon. WOW :thumb:

It's a hassle to fix but worth it so the cables don't rub on the frame and trash your logos.

Anyway, nice bike! I'm obsessed with Miyatas from that period. I have both a 1989 Team and 1400. I'm always on the lookout for another one since the geometry of these fit me perfectly. Looks like yours is my size too. If you ever decide to get rid of it...

beechnutC23 07-03-16 06:43 PM

I have a late '80s Miyata road bike, forget the model, but it has a 7-speed indexed Dura-Ace group with downtube shifters. I "loaned" it to my son a few years ago but I haven't seen much of it since. He just loves the thing :)

Viperplayer5220 07-04-16 06:26 AM

Here is my 1988 Raleigh Technium 400 with a few updates. I changed the rear derailleur to an NOS RSX short cage and I installed longer cranks.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...pshrg3rgb7.jpg

Knet 07-04-16 06:29 AM

1987 Trek 520 with newly installed MicroShift 3x7's.

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...pstqzw20pr.jpg

bleui 07-07-16 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by gt eunuch (Post 18867093)
Just got done with this, need suggestions on tires to run. Skinwalls? Hrmmmmmmm.... For reference, these 28's do NOT fit without deflating first. They run into the seat tube before they can slot into the dropouts.

http://i.imgur.com/2D55PPXh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Cyd0o5Nh.jpg

what's the handlebar & stem combo? is a 26.0 compact one exist?

Andy_K 07-07-16 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by gt eunuch (Post 18867093)
Just got done with this, need suggestions on tires to run. Skinwalls? Hrmmmmmmm.... For reference, these 28's do NOT fit without deflating first. They run into the seat tube before they can slot into the dropouts.

http://i.imgur.com/2D55PPXh.jpg

That's a really good looking bike!

Is the fit issue the only complaint you have with the tires, or are you concerned about having too much black? I have the latter concern with my Buenos Aires, which has all black 5700-series 105 components. I feel like the hatched sidewall of the Continental GP 4 Seasons I'm running helps a little, but just a little.

I feel like your bike is really pulling off the mix of modern and retro and skinwalls might disrupt the balance a bit. I think you should just embrace the blackness. Or maybe something like a Michelin Pro4 with a blue stripe to pick up the minor color from the frame.

RiddleOfSteel 07-08-16 01:20 AM

1982 Raleigh model 531 (frameset only back-of-catalog offering) - 25.5" - "Full feature" Veloce 9s Ergos (3-4 downshifts, full cassette upshifts--essentially Chorus internals) and RD. Comp Triple crank, Centaur brakes, Racing T FD, (shiny) Record hubs to Open Pros, stock 600EX headset, Brooks B17 on 27.0 Campy seatpost. Whippy and thus very comfortable.

https://photos.smugmug.com/The-Riddl.../i-dZRQ6dP.jpg

1985 Schwinn Peloton sporting her fourth component set in my possession. 10s Record Ergo (with Chorus lever blades...), Chorus carbon RD, FSA Carbon Team Issue triple crankset (because we can't be too serious here), Centaur triple FD, decently light-ish Origin8/Alexrim A19 wheels (1800g or so), MOst brakes, Cadence carbon seatpost, Fizik Arione VS saddle. The wide bars/short stem setup steers wonderfully (hands just behind front axle). Fast yet also tingly smooth.

https://photos.smugmug.com/The-Riddl.../i-38jQm3N.jpg

(apologies for the linking necessity, trying to re-figure out a proper attachment/embedding of an image. Ugh)

EDIT/UPDATE: We're gettting it!! MauriceMoss posted the embedded images after I originally posted links to the photos. Big thanks to him--I think I've got it.

ratfink76 07-08-16 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel (Post 18897268)
1982 Raleigh model 531 (frameset only back-of-catalog offering) - 25.5" - "Full feature" Veloce 9s Ergos (3-4 downshifts, full cassette upshifts--essentially Chorus internals) and RD. Comp Triple crank, Centaur brakes, Racing T FD, (shiny) Record hubs to Open Pros, stock 600EX headset, Brooks B17 on 27.0 Campy seatpost. Whippy and thus very comfortable.

https://danbaretich.smugmug.com/The-...FF/i-dZRQ6dP/A

1985 Schwinn Peloton sporting her fourth component set in my possession. 10s Record Ergo (with Chorus lever blades...), Chorus carbon RD, FSA Carbon Team Issue triple crankset (because we can't be too serious here), Centaur triple FD, decently light-ish Origin8/Alexrim A19 wheels (1800g or so), MOst brakes, Cadence carbon seatpost, Fizik Arione VS saddle. The wide bars/short stem setup steers wonderfully (hands just behind front axle). Fast yet also tingly smooth.

https://danbaretich.smugmug.com/The-...FF/i-38jQm3N/A

(apologies for the linking necessity, trying to re-figure out a proper attachment/embedding of an image. Ugh)

I like your style! Both of these look like they could have left the factory just now if those frames were still in production. Well played!!

MauriceMoss 07-08-16 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel (Post 18897268)
1982 Raleigh model 531 (frameset only back-of-catalog offering) - 25.5" - "Full feature" Veloce 9s Ergos (3-4 downshifts, full cassette upshifts--essentially Chorus internals) and RD. Comp Triple crank, Centaur brakes, Racing T FD, (shiny) Record hubs to Open Pros, stock 600EX headset, Brooks B17 on 27.0 Campy seatpost. Whippy and thus very comfortable.

https://danbaretich.smugmug.com/The-...FF/i-dZRQ6dP/A

1985 Schwinn Peloton sporting her fourth component set in my possession. 10s Record Ergo (with Chorus lever blades...), Chorus carbon RD, FSA Carbon Team Issue triple crankset (because we can't be too serious here), Centaur triple FD, decently light-ish Origin8/Alexrim A19 wheels (1800g or so), MOst brakes, Cadence carbon seatpost, Fizik Arione VS saddle. The wide bars/short stem setup steers wonderfully (hands just behind front axle). Fast yet also tingly smooth.

https://danbaretich.smugmug.com/The-...FF/i-38jQm3N/A

(apologies for the linking necessity, trying to re-figure out a proper attachment/embedding of an image. Ugh)



Great job on both of those!

https://photos.smugmug.com/The-Riddl...dZRQ6dP-XL.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/The-Riddl...38jQm3N-XL.jpg

gt eunuch 07-08-16 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by bleui (Post 18896811)
what's the handlebar & stem combo? is a 26.0 compact one exist?

Stem is a Nitto Pearl 10, handlebars are Soma Highway 1.


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 18896933)
That's a really good looking bike!

Is the fit issue the only complaint you have with the tires, or are you concerned about having too much black?

The ONLY issue I have with the tires are the fit. After those tires sat on the bike for a few days, the front had stretched and started to touch the underside of the front brake caliper. Re-ordered the same tire in an x25 and we should be good to go :)

Darth Lefty 07-08-16 02:19 PM

A little update on the RX100-equipped bike I mentioned earlier. The Veloce 2x10 brifters worked fine to shift the rear... but it did work better in the low gears and wouldn't settle on high ones, until I adjusted it a bit. Seems like the error in click size is tolerable at 7-speed but probably works better at 8-speed.

At the front, it turned out the owner had earlier bent open the cage of the FD to fix a perceived problem with chain rub, which sort of ruins any notion of getting the indexing to work properly. I'd also bought a Veloce FD in case of trouble, but the clamp was one tube size too big. But as I mentioned the number of clicks available from the brifter will always give you somewhere to put the FD. I just wish it were perfect.

gt eunuch 07-08-16 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 18898559)
A little update on the RX100-equipped bike I mentioned earlier. The Veloce 2x10 brifters worked fine to shift the rear... but it did work better in the low gears and wouldn't settle on high ones, until I adjusted it a bit. Seems like the error in click size is tolerable at 7-speed but probably works better at 8-speed

I ran a 'Schmergo' setup for a bit on 7 speed shimano cassette, RSX RD, RSX FD, and Campy 9 speed shifters (i think?) I ran it for about 1k miles, and it worked well enough, but to get rear shifting PERFECT it required tiny adjustments of the cable tension every 50 or so miles. If I didn't end up with a new groupset, it would've stayed on there for longer.

RiddleOfSteel 07-08-16 10:42 PM

ratfink and MauriceMoss, thank you!! [And I swear I tried all the ways I could to embed the photos, but couldn't. It was late at night, but you are the man, MM, for properly posting them. I will get it right.]

And to so many others in this thread, your bikes are mouth-wateringly beautiful. Oh man, absolutely inspirational (not sure if my wallet will think so...)

EDIT: Got it right, and it is now fixed above (with proper credit assigned to him and to Dfrost (private messaging)).

Will be posting a good picture of my big Cannondale, hopefully this weekend--get some Shimano representation as the Campy grouppo'd bikes have been more recent builds.

Jeroendvr 07-11-16 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by bleui (Post 18896811)
what's the handlebar & stem combo? is a 26.0 compact one exist?

You could also look into Deda Murex/Piega stem and handlebars if you're looking for a 26m compact...

bleui 07-11-16 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by Jeroendvr (Post 18903200)
You could also look into Deda Murex/Piega stem and handlebars if you're looking for a 26m compact...

ooh nice stem, thanks for this

le jambon 07-12-16 11:47 AM

Moser Leader AX
 
Almost finished this Moser Leader AX

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/moser-leader-ax-29410_1.jpg

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/moser-leader-ax-29410_4.jpg

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/moser-leader-ax-29410_2.jpg

Moser Leader AX - Pedal Room

DTSs 07-12-16 11:54 AM

Very very nice with an interesting color match with your Ultegra group

jtbadge 07-12-16 11:55 AM

That Moser is awesome.

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/merckx-mx-leader-29250_1.jpg

Ordered a 6800 group for this yesterday. Just need to decide on wheels and cockpit.

liquefied 07-12-16 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by le jambon (Post 18906960)
Almost finished this Moser Leader AX

Moser Leader AX - Pedal Room

Awesome. Looks great with the dark grey Ultegra.


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