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RiddleOfSteel 11-16-23 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by mr.slick (Post 23072532)
My father-in-law up in the Sierra Nevadas used to race Bud Light Series triathlons back in the 80's. He'd beat the top contenders out of the water and he still remembers the whoosh sound of getting passed on the bike.

His 90s steel OS tubing Paramount (royal purple--64cm) was collecting dust so I convinced him to let me build it up with STIs to get him to ride it again. Originally it came with tri-color Shimano 53/44 x 13-23. He claims that he pushed his old racing Univega over the mountains with a 19t gear. I put a 12-34 rear cassette and Sensah 2x7 shifter/levers. I wrapped the bars with purple Deda Elementi tape and put on purple anodized end crimps. We did half of the old tri course around the lake and he held a good pace over the hills at the end.

I haven't reached my 10-post minimum so the photos will have to wait.

Judging by the pic assist, that 64cm looks like a 66cm! Same size as my OS, albeit with less fork rake (I am a bit jealous!). Looks great in that purple!

mhespenheide 11-16-23 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by mr.slick (Post 23073879)
Tepusquet is amazing. We typically ride Foxen to Alisos and back through Los Alamos, but maybe I can convince the guys to ride up Tep on Saturday. I thought most of the Los Olivos guys went up Fig Mtn. That’s where I’d see Tejay van Garderen riding. That Paramount OS is a beautiful bike. Great build quality

I rode Fig somewhat regularly, but it's just too steep at the beginning to be enjoyable. A good challenge once a month or so. Happy Canyon was great, and Foxen, and many others. But Tepusquet is just a great combination of challenging but still intimate and approachable, with a great view of unpopulated rolling hills from the top.

ski4bob 11-17-23 08:22 AM

eBay purchase
 

Originally Posted by Road Fan (Post 23072965)
Hi, Ski4bob, real nice build, and great paint!

What are those handlebars? They look very comfortable!

they are Chinese knockoffs off of EBay that I like a bunch. Very comfortable and I think they look great. I have these on 2 other bikes, one for 5 years or so and they’ve been a solid performer.

EnzoRWD 11-17-23 12:42 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-gm?authuser=1
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-gm?authuser=1
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-gm?authuser=1

Road Fan 11-18-23 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by ski4bob (Post 23075090)
they are Chinese knockoffs off of EBay that I like a bunch. Very comfortable and I think they look great. I have these on 2 other bikes, one for 5 years or so and they’ve been a solid performer.

Thanks! can you share a link?

mr.slick 11-19-23 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel (Post 23073908)
Judging by the pic assist, that 64cm looks like a 66cm! Same size as my OS, albeit with less fork rake (I am a bit jealous!). Looks great in that purple!

It might be 66cm. I put the highest conceivable number because it's massive; he's 6'4. Where in Portland are you? I grew up cutting my teeth on Cornell, Skyline, Thompson, and Germantown on the West side.

RiddleOfSteel 11-20-23 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by mr.slick (Post 23077582)
It might be 66cm. I put the highest conceivable number because it's massive; he's 6'4. Where in Portland are you? I grew up cutting my teeth on Cornell, Skyline, Thompson, and Germantown on the West side.

The serial number on the bottom of the bottom bracket shell will tell you everything. Should lead with a 640 or 660. I'm in Yamhill County. Haven't been here for too long, so figuring out good roads to ride (that I don't get run over on). Gorgeous area.

Andy_K 11-20-23 09:20 AM

My latest retro-roadie creation is this 1973 Raleigh Professional.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f2595a2b_h.jpg

The custom machined ferrule I got from [MENTION=512318]oneclick[/MENTION] makes the rear derailleur cable behave well with the 5mm British cable stop. I had it out for the first extended ride yesterday and the shifting was excellent.

I'm using a Shimano 105 front derailleur with my otherwise Campy drivetrain. :eek: The Campy front derailleur I had with this gruppo was an OS model, and mounted on these standard-sized tubes it wouldn't reach the big ring. The Shimano mech works so well with these shifters that I think I'm going to have to leave it.

romperrr 11-21-23 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 23077767)
My latest retro-roadie creation is this 1973 Raleigh Professional. I'm using a Shimano 105 front derailleur with my otherwise Campy drivetrain. :eek: The Campy front derailleur I had with this gruppo was an OS model, and mounted on these standard-sized tubes it wouldn't reach the big ring. The Shimano mech works so well with these shifters that I think I'm going to have to leave it.

With a bike that pretty, I, for one, will allow you this minor transgression. The black (dark gray?) saddle and bars let the frame pop nicely. Clean beautiful build. I really prefer Campy ergos over shimano on 70's retro roadies as having all the cables under the tape just looks cleaner. No shame on Shimano, merely a preference.

Erzulis Boat 11-21-23 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by mhespenheide (Post 23074669)
I rode Fig somewhat regularly, but it's just too steep at the beginning to be enjoyable. A good challenge once a month or so. Happy Canyon was great, and Foxen, and many others. But Tepusquet is just a great combination of challenging but still intimate and approachable, with a great view of unpopulated rolling hills from the top.

Fig is goofy hard. I ride Foxen, Ballard etc. twice a week or so. You can go up Ballard, go up "dump hill", go way past Fess Parker's and come home via Zaca for a 30+ mile/ 2250+ feet ride and only see maybe 5 cars (I start at 6 or 7ish AM)
Starting in Ballard.

Andy_K 11-21-23 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by romperrr (Post 23078661)
With a bike that pretty, I, for one, will allow you this minor transgression. The black (dark gray?) saddle and bars let the frame pop nicely. Clean beautiful build. I really prefer Campy ergos over shimano on 70's retro roadies as having all the cables under the tape just looks cleaner. No shame on Shimano, merely a preference.

The bar tape and saddle are a bit lighter shade of gray than they appear in this picture, but I can't seem to take a picture that shows it well. I agree about the Shimano external cable thing. I've got a couple of bikes with the later generations of Shimano after they switched to under the tape cable, but Campy just seems more natural to me. Maybe having to use the brake blade to shift with Shimano is part of it. Also, Shimano abandoned silver components about the same time they put the cables under the tape. And then there's their ugly cranks.

I think it's possible to mix generations of Shimano components to put together something with mostly silver components that isn't ugly and works well. I might need to challenge myself to do that.

robertorolfo 11-21-23 04:48 PM

It's been a while, but I don't think I ever posted this build in here. It's a Daccordi Opera, circa 1993 (Genius tubing), with a 10sp Chorus group. The paint is lovely in person:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9d145a33c.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...16d6e6206.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...24a3daf3d.jpeg

cat0020 11-21-23 06:43 PM

2001 Litespeed Vortex with DA7800
https://i.imgur.com/0UESpfS.jpg

2002 Litespeed Tuscany with Ultegra 6500
https://i.imgur.com/EX7LoTi.jpg

mstateglfr 11-21-23 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by romperrr (Post 23078661)
With a bike that pretty, I, for one, will allow you this minor transgression. The black (dark gray?) saddle and bars let the frame pop nicely. Clean beautiful build. I really prefer Campy ergos over shimano on 70's retro roadies as having all the cables under the tape just looks cleaner. No shame on Shimano, merely a preference.

Shimano moved their shift cables under the bar tape over a decade ago.
You have been able to have your cake and eat it too for years now. Huzzah!

Andy_K 11-21-23 11:44 PM

Your cake

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2b8ba47d_b.jpg

:innocent:

billytwosheds 11-22-23 01:36 AM


Originally Posted by robertorolfo (Post 23079073)
It's been a while, but I don't think I ever posted this build in here. It's a Daccordi Opera, circa 1993 (Genius tubing), with a 10sp Chorus group. The paint is lovely in person:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9d145a33c.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...16d6e6206.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...24a3daf3d.jpeg

That thing looks like it would rip.

RB1-luvr 11-22-23 07:05 AM

this may be my favorite thread on BF.

Kilroy1988 11-22-23 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by ehcoplex (Post 23079414)
I dunno if my bikes qualify here......

Lovely bikes, but not quite! Those that do qualify have been retro-fitted with modern integrated brake/shift levers (i.e. Campagnolo Ergopower, Shimano STI, etc).

-Gregory

ehcoplex 11-22-23 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Kilroy1988 (Post 23079421)
Lovely bikes, but not quite! Those that do qualify have been retro-fitted with modern integrated brake/shift levers (i.e. Campagnolo Ergopower, Shimano STI, etc).

-Gregory

Got it. I did see a post or two with bike that had DTs and 'aero' levers, so I thought maybe.....

Kilroy1988 11-22-23 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by ehcoplex (Post 23079424)
Got it. I did see a post or two with bike that had DTs and 'aero' levers, so I thought maybe.....

I've been following the thread for several years and there are some that sneak in because many of those certainly are "retro" builds, having modern drivetrains with 9-11 speeds, but I think the original intention of the thread - as clearly indicated in the title - was to show off those integrated levers.

-Gregory

robertorolfo 11-23-23 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by billytwosheds (Post 23079332)
That thing looks like it would rip.

Yes, it's awesome to ride, and definitely fast! The steering geometry is very quick as well though, so you have to stay on top of it.

curiousabe 12-20-23 04:23 PM

OK fine, not a retro frame, as a matter of fact, a completely new frame that one might think is a retro frame (even the panto is new) but at least it has some retro parts :D

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bc13c7795b.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f5e6ccf3d0.jpg

no67el 12-20-23 08:26 PM

Wow that Barco is a beauty--- that metallic copper color is excellent. Not a builder I'd heard of before, but judging from their website, they do some nice work. Which frame model is that?

Classtime 12-20-23 11:16 PM

If I make it to Italy, I want a Barco waiting for me.

curiousabe 12-21-23 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by no67el (Post 23106166)
Wow that Barco is a beauty--- that metallic copper color is excellent. Not a builder I'd heard of before, but judging from their website, they do some nice work. Which frame model is that?

Yea its a beauty! Its not really any of their models, I think the models are just supposed to work as a starting point since they only do customs and the possibilities are seemingly endless, think we had 10 or so back and forth emails on just style of lugs for the fork :) I also started the process before they launched that model concept but I guess the closestodel would be GIUSTINA https://www.ciclibarco.it/project/giustina

My understanding ia that they mostly do frames for other brands e.g. cinellis xcr :)


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