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Old 07-07-08 | 05:35 PM
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Tiny rivets

I'm putting my Peugeot back togeather and I removed the rivets that held the headbadge on.
I can't find any rivets small enough and was wondering what you guys use and where you bought them.
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Old 07-07-08 | 06:10 PM
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I don't use a rivet, but rather a "drive nail" with a spiral fluted shaft. Very small sizes can be found at McMaster-Carr (mcmaster.com) , I use the 90081, plus they have pretty much every fastener you'll ever need.
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Old 07-07-08 | 06:24 PM
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Nick at Lloyds, who does the decals also sells head-badge rivets.
https://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...yds/decals.htm

You need to scroll way down the page to find the rivets in very small print!!
Cheap as chips as Brits might say...
Worth checking the other hard to find parts too.
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Old 07-07-08 | 06:56 PM
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Om my Carlton, I tapped the holes to 3mm and used stainless screws. The screw heads looked too big to me, so I turned them down. They still look too big to me and I plan to replace them with rivets.

How do you drive rivets without a special tool that won't cause a flat spot in the head?

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Old 07-07-08 | 07:58 PM
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one reason why the "drive nail" works better than a rivet: you don't have to hit them hard enough to deform the back of the shaft, the spiral fluting cuts enough into the hole to hold them (if you have the dimensions matched right) and the nails are steel so the heads are pretty tough. I use a plastic-faced mallet. But for those who really have to have rivets McMaster-Carr has many styles in steel as well as brass and copper, even tiny pop-rivets (but I don't have a pop rivet tool small enough for them).
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Old 07-07-08 | 10:34 PM
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How do you drive rivets without a special tool that won't cause a flat spot in the head?
For that matter, how did Raleigh/Carlton/Motobecane install headbadge rivets? Did they have a special deadman that fit inside the headtube?

In my toolbox is a punch that's got a hollow point; but it's not large enough for an aluminum bike rivet -- perhaps there's a larger version of this.

I plan to install a headbadge using silicone sealant, and use silicone to install the rivets too (cut down a bit).
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.... even tiny pop-rivets (but I don't have a pop rivet tool small enough for them).

When Ed Litton put the head badge on my Mondia, that's what he used.
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Old 07-08-08 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles Wahl
For that matter, how did Raleigh/Carlton/Motobecane install headbadge rivets? Did they have a special deadman that fit inside the headtube?

In my toolbox is a punch that's got a hollow point; but it's not large enough for an aluminum bike rivet -- perhaps there's a larger version of this.

I plan to install a headbadge using silicone sealant, and use silicone to install the rivets too (cut down a bit).
I wouldn't use silicone..........It comes off pretty easy. I'd get some double side emblem tape from an auto body shop or maybe even just emblem adhesive. Every shop I've worked in also had a huge supply of rivets in just about every size. Lots of tiny ones made of aluminium that would work and look pretty good too.........Might be worth a trip.
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Old 07-08-08 | 03:12 AM
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Thanks a lot for the info.
That mcmaster site will have exactly what I need.
Thanks again
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