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Old 04-13-15, 10:43 AM
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I've put some more work into my 1978 Raleigh Superbe.
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Calling Floridian three-speed lovers! I spent a three-day weekend at my mother in law's place in Palm Beach, where I store my Hercules and my Rudge. The Hercules is a lost cause for me, because I don't have time to fix it up, and having a shop do it isn't worth it to me. Does anyone want it? It needs a dozen little things. The fender rubs. The shifter needs changing. Worst of all, the fork might be bent.

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I'm just up the road in Loxahatchee, although what I usually look for are bikes in worse condition than that. Still, if nobody else shows up, I could repair her and find a good home.
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@BigChief, that doesn't sound so far. Would you like it? I'll ask my mother in law if she'd be willing to facilitate a handoff. She may prefer me to be there. I hope not, because I don't expect to visit her there until April 2016. She's a snowbird and has a place in White Plains, NY in the warmer months.

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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
What about women who ride 3 speeds? What happens to them???
I like 'em just fine...
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Originally Posted by Narhay
I've put some more work into my 1978 Raleigh Superbe.
Looks brand new!
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Old 04-13-15, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
What about women who ride 3 speeds? What happens to them???
Looks like she won't go for you either..... (Unless you upgrade to a Bendix 2-speed - then you never know.....)
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Originally Posted by markk900
Looks like she won't go for you either..... (Unless you upgrade to a Bendix 2-speed - then you never know.....)
It's a funny truth. I remember when I was growing up in the 60's that I wanted a Stingray/Mustang style bike. I didn't get one but my Dad took me to Canadian Tire and we bought some parts to re vamp my bike. Banana seat, ape hanger bars, monkey fenders etc. It turned out quite nice and then some kid from school stole it! My Dad and I went to his house and got it back a few days later. When it was time for a bigger bike I wanted a 10 speed as I imagined it was cooler and more mature than those old fashion 3 speeds. Years later I rediscovered the joy and simplicity of the English bicycles and look at most derailleur bikes with pity... I never got the hang of changing non indexed gears and even the modern derailleurs are constantly filthy and collecting debris. I rode my old (1998) CCM North 44 for 15 years and rarely used more than 3 of the 18 gears offered.
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Originally Posted by gster
It's a funny truth. I remember when I was growing up in the 60's that I wanted a Stingray/Mustang style bike. I didn't get one but my Dad took me to Canadian Tire and we bought some parts to re vamp my bike. Banana seat, ape hanger bars, monkey fenders etc. It turned out quite nice and then some kid from school stole it! My Dad and I went to his house and got it back a few days later. When it was time for a bigger bike I wanted a 10 speed as I imagined it was cooler and more mature than those old fashion 3 speeds. Years later I rediscovered the joy and simplicity of the English bicycles and look at most derailleur bikes with pity... I never got the hang of changing non indexed gears and even the modern derailleurs are constantly filthy and collecting debris.
Those of us who grew up with Canadian Tire all must have done the same thing - flipping through the bike accessory section of the catalog over and over again - dreaming of saving enough paper route or allowance money to buy stuff for our bikes. Like you, had a 3-speed banana bike but moved up to a "real" 10 speed when I was 11 or 12 - wanted to be a "real racer" so none of those english 3-speeds for me! Though I did like to take my mom's glider out for rides in the neighborhood - just to see how bad it was (it wasn't!).
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Originally Posted by markk900
Those of us who grew up with Canadian Tire all must have done the same thing - flipping through the bike accessory section of the catalog over and over again - dreaming of saving enough paper route or allowance money to buy stuff for our bikes. Like you, had a 3-speed banana bike but moved up to a "real" 10 speed when I was 11 or 12 - wanted to be a "real racer" so none of those english 3-speeds for me! Though I did like to take my mom's glider out for rides in the neighborhood - just to see how bad it was (it wasn't!).
I've got some of those old catalogues around and will try to scan a few pages...they did have a good selection of accessories.
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Originally Posted by gster
Looks brand new!
Thanks! Certainly a far cry from the "Free Raliegh" ad I responded to a couple years back. I wasn't even the first to respond. He just left it on his lawn and told me where it was. That free bike has cost quite more than expected and stuck around longer than I had thought. But I think it is deserving of it.
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Here's a 1967 5 speed Sprite for sale in Niagara Falls, Canada. It's got the cool throttle shifters.. Price is a little high @ $525.00 but then again $500.00 isn't that much these days.
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Originally Posted by Narhay
I've put some more work into my 1978 Raleigh Superbe.
Wow! It looks fantastic!
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1969 Gold Edition Sports Matched Pair

They have 45+ years of dings etc. but they'll clean up nicely. Suggestions on decent white saddles appreciated.

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Originally Posted by markk900
Those of us who grew up with Canadian Tire all must have done the same thing - flipping through the bike accessory section of the catalog over and over again - dreaming of saving enough paper route or allowance money to buy stuff for our bikes. Like you, had a 3-speed banana bike but moved up to a "real" 10 speed when I was 11 or 12 - wanted to be a "real racer" so none of those english 3-speeds for me! Though I did like to take my mom's glider out for rides in the neighborhood - just to see how bad it was (it wasn't!).
i still have one ..
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Originally Posted by michaelz28
i still have one ..
Red Lines?
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What kind of rear racks do you folks like on your 3-speeds? There's a Raleigh Sport locally that I'm considering picking up as a backup bike for my roadster (which is having IGH problems right now), but I would need to put a rack on it to use it as a commuter. What's readily available but period and stylistically appropriate?
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Originally Posted by forestine
Wow! It looks fantastic!
Thank you. I take it to work every now and then but usually end up in a collapsed pile on the side of the road halfway up some of the hills I have to traverse. It wants another lower gear even with the larger cog but it is great everywhere else. It is very relaxed to ride and I feel like I've done the right thing by putting it back in service.
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Originally Posted by Narhay
Thank you. I take it to work every now and then but usually end up in a collapsed pile on the side of the road halfway up some of the hills I have to traverse. It wants another lower gear even with the larger cog but it is great everywhere else. It is very relaxed to ride and I feel like I've done the right thing by putting it back in service.
Think when these were new people had stronger legs? Or did they only ride them in flatland? I've been wondering about that, too.
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Originally Posted by forestine
Think when these were new people had stronger legs? Or did they only ride them in flatland? I've been wondering about that, too.
England is extremely hilly, and the roads date back to before switchbacks were invented. Walking your bike up a hill was a common thing. Nowadays, people want to pedal up all hills.

It still doesn't explain why gears were quite so tall. They were very, very tall. Maybe they didn't believe in cadences over 60 rpm?
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Originally Posted by Chesterton
What kind of rear racks do you folks like on your 3-speeds? There's a Raleigh Sport locally that I'm considering picking up as a backup bike for my roadster (which is having IGH problems right now), but I would need to put a rack on it to use it as a commuter. What's readily available but period and stylistically appropriate?
Plestcher. If you look at a coop bike shop you might find one for only $5-$10.
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Originally Posted by gster
Red Lines?
not for the straight stingray . that's a stik/shift model which got you hand brakes and the shifter . the stingray got just a plain slik in back . the krate bikes got the red line tires . that the original date coded tires on the bike ( feb 69 ).
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Originally Posted by michaelz28
not for the straight stingray . that's a stik/shift model which got you hand brakes and the shifter . the stingray got just a plain slik in back . the krate bikes got the red line tires . that the original date coded tires on the bike ( feb 69 ).
Very nice..
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Anybody know anything about the Halfords Catkin? I came back to my bike to find one parked next to mine. Isn't that a UK store? It's a three speed with brass (?) fenders and super frilly 70s decals. Where's the heart eyes emoji when you need it? If I had some paper I would have left a note. "I am in love with your bike." Here's a similar one from pinterest.
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