For the love of English 3 speeds...
05-24-19, 07:54 AM
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Very interesting rare looking Raleighs. First is one claimed to be 1961 with an IGH and also a derailleur. A mix of parts and maybe all doesn't add up, but the price seems reasonable for what is there.
https://toledo.craigslist.org/bik/d/...895914139.html
Of more interest is this 5 speed Sprite with the IGH and twin shifters. I of course know next to nothing about either of these but thought others may enjoy. I would seriously be interested in the green Sprite except didn't want the whole bunch. It does appear to be mint.
https://toledo.craigslist.org/bik/d/...894287042.html
https://toledo.craigslist.org/bik/d/...895914139.html
Of more interest is this 5 speed Sprite with the IGH and twin shifters. I of course know next to nothing about either of these but thought others may enjoy. I would seriously be interested in the green Sprite except didn't want the whole bunch. It does appear to be mint.
https://toledo.craigslist.org/bik/d/...894287042.html
EDIT: That late '60s sport looks good, too. I'm a little surprised by the shift cable routing--that how my wife's Lady's model is routed.
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Very interesting rare looking Raleighs. First is one claimed to be 1961 with an IGH and also a derailleur. A mix of parts and maybe all doesn't add up, but the price seems reasonable for what is there.
https://toledo.craigslist.org/bik/d/...895914139.html
Of more interest is this 5 speed Sprite with the IGH and twin shifters. I of course know next to nothing about either of these but thought others may enjoy. I would seriously be interested in the green Sprite except didn't want the whole bunch. It does appear to be mint.
https://toledo.craigslist.org/bik/d/...894287042.html
https://toledo.craigslist.org/bik/d/...895914139.html
Of more interest is this 5 speed Sprite with the IGH and twin shifters. I of course know next to nothing about either of these but thought others may enjoy. I would seriously be interested in the green Sprite except didn't want the whole bunch. It does appear to be mint.
https://toledo.craigslist.org/bik/d/...894287042.html
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05-24-19, 05:43 PM
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Looks almost original except the stem and maybe the tires. Great price for a clean survivor!
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Maybe the shifter cable was re routed that way to clear the wire baskets. Hard to tell in the photo. I don't think Raleigh routed gents models that way until later in the 70s.
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This frame may go back to the curb...
The stem is firmly rusted in place.
It looks like the previous owner actually destroyed/ripped the bar clamp off
trying to free it up.
I'll give it a chance but
I'm not spending too much time on this.
I've never had a frozen stem before...
The stem is firmly rusted in place.It looks like the previous owner actually destroyed/ripped the bar clamp off
trying to free it up.
I'll give it a chance but
I'm not spending too much time on this.
I've never had a frozen stem before...
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This frame may go back to the curb...The stem is firmly rusted in place.
It looks like the previous owner actually destroyed/ripped the bar clamp off
trying to free it up.
I'll give it a chance but
I'm not spending too much time on this.
I've never had a frozen stem before...
The stem is firmly rusted in place.It looks like the previous owner actually destroyed/ripped the bar clamp off
trying to free it up.
I'll give it a chance but
I'm not spending too much time on this.
I've never had a frozen stem before...
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Do you think this wheel is salvageable?
Hi all,
I've kept mostly everything from the '79 donor Sports, a long with the front wheel. Since my '50 Suberbe lost its front wheel somehow along the way, I thought of cleaning up this guy and using it. The hub feels good - probably just needs fresh bearings and grease. However the rust gives me pause. See photos where I've cleaned a bit. Is it worth it? The nipples are in decent shape. I haven't found any soft spots.
I've kept mostly everything from the '79 donor Sports, a long with the front wheel. Since my '50 Suberbe lost its front wheel somehow along the way, I thought of cleaning up this guy and using it. The hub feels good - probably just needs fresh bearings and grease. However the rust gives me pause. See photos where I've cleaned a bit. Is it worth it? The nipples are in decent shape. I haven't found any soft spots.
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Hi all,
I've kept mostly everything from the '79 donor Sports, a long with the front wheel. Since my '50 Suberbe lost its front wheel somehow along the way, I thought of cleaning up this guy and using it. The hub feels good - probably just needs fresh bearings and grease. However the rust gives me pause. See photos where I've cleaned a bit. Is it worth it? The nipples are in decent shape. I haven't found any soft spots.
I've kept mostly everything from the '79 donor Sports, a long with the front wheel. Since my '50 Suberbe lost its front wheel somehow along the way, I thought of cleaning up this guy and using it. The hub feels good - probably just needs fresh bearings and grease. However the rust gives me pause. See photos where I've cleaned a bit. Is it worth it? The nipples are in decent shape. I haven't found any soft spots.
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Keep it for now.
Looks like a lot of work to clean the rust but
the wheel could be a place holder until a better
one comes along.
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This has a lot going for it. Great find! Original finish, shifter, cloth cable housings, early type one piece shifter cable stop, original black cable clips, rims, stainless spokes, complete chain case, original SA headlamp. (can't see if the tail light is there) original double quill pedals. I wonder f the rubber blocks were changed at some point, hard to say. Outside of a fork thimble and grips this looks to be all there and in good shape. You hit a home run on this one. The shifter looks like it might be bent and rusty (need better pics) but don't give up on it if it is. They can be restored. Great bike.
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This has a lot going for it. Great find! Original finish, shifter, cloth cable housings, early type one piece shifter cable stop, original black cable clips, rims, stainless spokes, complete chain case, original SA headlamp. (can't see if the tail light is there) original double quill pedals. I wonder f the rubber blocks were changed at some point, hard to say. Outside of a fork thimble and grips this looks to be all there and in good shape. You hit a home run on this one. The shifter looks like it might be bent and rusty (need better pics) but don't give up on it if it is. They can be restored. Great bike.
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I went and had a gander at Ebay for one of those to provide the finishing touch to my 1950 Superbe Sports. They are not cheap, but do they provide that perfect sound?
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The other Lucas bells have a "brring-brring" sound and a different mechanism. More typical of most bells. Still nice.
Oddly, the Chinese Flying Pigeon often came equipped with an exact replica of the 3" chalice bell. Identical to the Lucas in every way, even build quality. I sold an NIB Lucas for $100 years ago but I've still got the Chinese knock-off in the stash. Perhaps it's a Phoenix, not a Pigeon.
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They've got that quintessential loud 'da-ding, da-dong' with one sweep of the thumb. The big 3 inch brass plated model has a big clear ring that sustains, I like it a lot, I think it's called a chalice bell?
The other Lucas bells have a "brring-brring" sound and a different mechanism. More typical of most bells. Still nice.
Oddly, the Chinese Flying Pigeon often came equipped with an exact replica of the 3" chalice bell. Identical to the Lucas in every way, even build quality. I sold an NIB Lucas for $100 years ago but I've still got the Chinese knock-off in the stash. Perhaps it's a Phoenix, not a Pigeon.
The other Lucas bells have a "brring-brring" sound and a different mechanism. More typical of most bells. Still nice.
Oddly, the Chinese Flying Pigeon often came equipped with an exact replica of the 3" chalice bell. Identical to the Lucas in every way, even build quality. I sold an NIB Lucas for $100 years ago but I've still got the Chinese knock-off in the stash. Perhaps it's a Phoenix, not a Pigeon.
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I’m putting my 1974 Superbe back together and I noticed that the top headset cup pops into place without a headset press. The bottom did need to be pressed into place. It is tight but still rotates a bit. It does look like it was reamed at some point.
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Once assembled, everything is locked together .