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Old 03-17-11 | 10:56 PM
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identify this fancy-lugged frame

I have an opportunity to buy this frame pretty cheap. I know I have seen those lugs before, but can't place them. Can anyone help me out?

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Old 03-17-11 | 11:08 PM
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Fancy lugs + stamped drops with eyelets makes me think English, but that's all I've got.
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Old 03-17-11 | 11:35 PM
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Could be Japanese i.e. Nishiki or something similar.
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Old 03-17-11 | 11:48 PM
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Old 03-17-11 | 11:58 PM
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+3, Japanese.
If you have a serial number...
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Old 03-18-11 | 12:03 AM
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Yeah, those look like fake nervex lugs. I agree that it's probably Japanese.
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Old 03-18-11 | 12:05 AM
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Definitely could be a Nishiki, are there holes for a headbadge?
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Old 03-18-11 | 09:15 AM
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I haven't seen it in person, just pics from online. Being japanese I'm guessing it's nothing that's going to sell quickly in this market. If I can I'll ask for a serial number and about the headbadge holes.
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Old 03-18-11 | 07:34 PM
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Looks like an old Nishiki International to me.

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Old 03-18-11 | 07:48 PM
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"faux-fancy", IMO
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Old 03-18-11 | 08:39 PM
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A more important question is what sort of tubing the frame is. How much does it weigh? What size seat post does it take? That'll give you an idea if it's low-end gas-pipe or nice chrome-moly. Some very nice old (1950's) frames combined stamped dropouts with high-quality tubing, although by the 70's stamped usually meant gas-pipe. If these guys are saying it's Japanese, it's probably from the 70's and a lower-end frame. But no braze-on's, maybe it would make a fixie or something.
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Fabrication Japonnaise.
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Originally Posted by kroozer
Some very nice old (1950's) frames combined stamped dropouts with high-quality tubing, although by the 70's stamped usually meant gas-pipe
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I think that's a bit overstated. The two 80's bikes I have with stamped dropouts have Cro-Mo and HLE tubing.

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