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Old 08-10-11, 08:44 AM
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Rust Bucket De Rossa

I'm not up to date on De Rossa but this thing is a rust bucket, and is going for over $2000.00 am I missing something?

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It's an early '70s, pressed-lug De Rosa with full pantographing. That pretty much sums it up. Watch as the forum needlessly turns this thread into a flamewar in three days.

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Kurt - it's not an 80s replica of a pressed lug 70s De Rosa?
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
Kurt - it's not an 80s replica of a pressed lug 70s De Rosa?
Doesn't look it to me, but you may be right. I'm not as well up on De Rosas as I'd like to be.

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All Rivendell jokes aside, it's a shame to see a good bike rot away. Even moreso when it's a classic made by one of the most esteemed builders in the world. A gamble for the new owner though - if the rust turns out to be fixable he/she has a pretty rider, if it's not some of the purchase cost may be recouped by selling those nice pantographed parts and group.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Doesn't look it to me, but you may be right. I'm not as well up on De Rosas as I'd like to be.

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I was going by the ad...it uses the word replica, and I know that De Rosa built specific year replicas. You could be right...we need a Citoyen, Repeche, Picchio to chime in
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It's original, and some heavy hitters are asking questions.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I was going by the ad...it uses the word replica, and I know that De Rosa built specific year replicas. You could be right...we need a Citoyen, Repeche, Picchio to chime in
I haven't seen the ad - can't be bothered to dig it up at those prices.

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Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy View Post
It's original, and some heavy hitters are asking questions.
I can think of some older De Rosas, in better condition, that someone I know owns, and I shudder to think of what that one is worth.

If that's a 70s De Rosa, and I have no reason to think otherwise, I think the 2+k price sounds about right.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I was going by the ad...it uses the word replica, and I know that De Rosa built specific year replicas. You could be right...we need a Citoyen, Repeche, Picchio to chime in
He's using the word "replica" to denote it's a Merckx Molteni livery model. Which is a very desireable 70's bike.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I can think of some older De Rosas, in better condition, that someone I know owns, and I shudder to think of what that one is worth.
Didn't that weird De Rosa track-to-road conversion fetch under $1,000 not long ago? That thing - barring the components - had better original paint than this example, and it was Molteni orange too.

Makes me wonder whether road frames outvalue track frames when it comes down to bikes with the cache of a De Rosa.

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Is this the same De Rosa that I posted in my thread? I can't see photos at work.
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Originally Posted by lotek View Post
Is this the same De Rosa that I posted in my thread? I can't see photos at work.
No way, José. This is a beat-up road frame with Nuovo Record.

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I didn't see the one you're talking about.
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Originally Posted by Otis View Post
He's using the word "replica" to denote it's a Merckx Molteni livery model. Which is a very desireable 70's bike.
That makes sense...I just saw the word replica and didn't read the ad in detail.
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Someone must be going ga-ga over those grainy 35mm archivesque photos used in the main ad.

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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I didn't see the one you're talking about.
Here it is: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=de+rosa+track

Make sure you're sitting down when you look at that thing - right down to the Deore DX rear derailer. Sold for $975.00.

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I think seller means it's a Eddie Merckx replica, not a replica 1970s frame.
again glad it's too big for me.
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That's like seeing a Ferrari rusting away out in the woods somewhere........
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That things toast. The TT appears to have very, very heavy rust. Like deep pit rust. For $2K your better off buying one thats been restored or is in just better overall condition.

Sheeeit.....the frameset needs at least $1000 worth of work and thats assuming its salvagable.
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That things toast. The TT appears to have very, very heavy rust. Like deep pit rust. For $2K your better off buying one thats been restored or is in just better overall condition.

Sheeeit.....the frameset needs at least $1000 worth of work and thats assuming its salvagable.
I passed on a 1984 Masi Gran Criterium last winter that was in a similar condition.

I'm just not up to that much work.

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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
It's an early '70s, pressed-lug De Rosa with full pantographing. That pretty much sums it up. Watch as the forum needlessly turns this thread into a flamewar in three days.

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I'd be willing to bet it will start even sooner. Flame on!!
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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
That things toast. The TT appears to have very, very heavy rust. Like deep pit rust. For $2K your better off buying one thats been restored or is in just better overall condition.
I agree on the price, but I'm not convinced the rust is that terminal. There's a good number of miles on this disaster, and it hasn't broken yet:



After all, Reynolds 531 and Columbus tubing of this era isn't that thin (example is a 531 top tube). Some surface pitting on a tube of this thickness shouldn't be cause for immediate panic:





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