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Old 07-11-12 | 10:07 AM
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No worries.

Kept my interest for the whole day, which is not so easy to do.

Such an interesting bicycle you have there.

I'll learn a lot in that thread.

Looks like you are going to need a display system at the house.
I stand to learn a lot here, too. I know very little about earlier Campy NR and even less about Masis across the board. With the knowledge on this Forum, I think that will be set right soon enough.

I'm waiting for repechage, poguemahone and CDM to weigh in, as they seem well-versed in earlier eras.

As for room, well...they'll be in a storage unit in about 6 months. I got confirmation of my new orders yesterday and will be going where it will not be practical to bring more than one bike.

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I love it DD, and, as Otis said, I dare say it might be even cooler than your other bikes. I guess I just think of you as Italian road bikes, and this is an Italian road bike.
I completely get that, Aaron. I do think it's the most special bike I own as of now - I was 5 when it was built. Blows my mind to think of that.

And, of course, the PO had her for 43 years. I can hardly wait to pull the BB this evening and look at her internals.

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Old 07-11-12 | 10:25 AM
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Way cool score, D. Dude. Someone posted an inquiry over on the CR list wondering who scored that rare bike. BlueDevil63 mentioned that someone over here was the lucky SOB.

Given the scarcity of the early, integral cable stop front derailleurs and no-date rears, I personally think an early Nuovo Record flat cage front would go fine on that bike. But you may want period correct.

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Old 07-11-12 | 10:30 AM
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I stand to learn a lot here, too. I know very little about earlier Campy NR and even less about Masis across the board. With the knowledge on this Forum, I think that will be set right soon enough.

I'm waiting for repechage, poguemahone and CDM to weigh in, as they seem well-versed in earlier eras.

As for room, well...they'll be in a storage unit in about 6 months. I got confirmation of my new orders yesterday and will be going where it will not be practical to bring more than one bike.

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A new assignment!

Hopefully you'll have a satellite uplink wherever the new assignment may be!

Any chance it is in the Mediterranean Sea area, like Italy per chance?
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Old 07-11-12 | 11:46 AM
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I know a guy with the correct FD. If, IF, he's willing to sell it, he won't let it go for cheap... but if you've got the money, he's got the part.
Thank you - I might try to cobble this together from old/new(er), but if that doesn't look like it will work, I'll be PMing you. I will be playing with the stop-gap fix tonight.

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Old 07-11-12 | 11:51 AM
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I surely would have guessed "Masi Special" instead of a Schwinn Chopper, if you had said at the start that it was perfectly in keeping with your tastes DD - (right down to the drillium I might add.(
I know - I did a crappy descriptor of "different". I guess to me it was quite a departure (perhaps if I'd have been picking up something with an IGH or something like that!)


Anyway, that is a really first-class Italian stallion for sure, DD.... Impressive. (-One change I'd have to make though, is to go with non-aero's: IMHO the chromed tube cable guides clash with those levers!)
Thanks! The modern brakes have already been removed and I have a set of early 70s Campy brakes to put on as a stop-gap until I can locate some Universal 68s. In fact, I will either list the Veloce/Soma brake stuff for trade here or perhaps use the calipers on the Davidson. Or pass them along to someone who may be interested in modern for classic. In any case, they're not going back on the bike.

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For a '69 build you do not need a "cable stop" front der. The no circlip style without the stop was around then.

For brakes, why not make your own "first generation" Records by sanding and polishing the lettering off a pair of early 70's calipers. If done carefully that can look good, and I know you can do it carefully. And would disclose the work if you sold the bike.
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Old 07-11-12 | 12:42 PM
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For a '69 build you do not need a "cable stop" front der. The no circlip style without the stop was around then.

For brakes, why not make your own "first generation" Records by sanding and polishing the lettering off a pair of early 70's calipers. If done carefully that can look good, and I know you can do it carefully. And would disclose the work if you sold the bike.
So, the brakeset would be appropriate for '69 if there was no lettering on the arms? Cool - and I know I can do that. I had to do it on the two sets of brakes in which I drilled slots in the arms, and it worked great

So, forget about using Universal 68s? If so, I only need to fudge the front derailleur, clean up the rear derailleur and fake the brake calipers. Sorted!

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Old 07-11-12 | 04:45 PM
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So DD, I've been watching this unfold on the sidelines and I have to say that IS a score. These old Masi's are just such sweet machines! The fact that this is a one owner bike makes it all that much more neat since it rarely is the case you find something this old with a single owner.

I think that going period correct is the right thing to do with this particular bike. I can't wait to see her done!
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Old 07-11-12 | 04:50 PM
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DD, this is a great find! It's almost better that the paint is not perfect. I find that I ride my beater Masi a lot more than the one with the nice paint, and they are really meant to be ridden.
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Old 07-11-12 | 05:07 PM
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Congrats! That's a stunner, and totally grail worthy. I love those older decals. Sheesh, now you're giving me the lust for an older Masi. FWIW, I rode my '74 GC to work today and smiled the whole way....
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In keeping with our somewhat parallel (but v. different) bike building schedules, I have also as of this morning taken on an older, yellower project
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I'm amazed the CL ad for this bike is still posted. The seller must have an inbox full of offers and people telling him he's nuts for selling it so cheap. I'm truly amazed that DD was able to get it in the first place (and very happy for him that he did), as ads like this I think are 99% of the time derailed by higher offers or moved to ebay. It's really a top score!
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Old 07-11-12 | 06:52 PM
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I'm amazed the CL ad for this bike is still posted. The seller must have an inbox full of offers and people telling him he's nuts for selling it so cheap. I'm truly amazed that DD was able to get it in the first place (and very happy for him that he did), as ads like this I think are 99% of the time derailed by higher offers or moved to ebay. It's really a top score!
Believe it or not, he'd not had any bites before me - and still had nobody else contact him 2.5 days later when I went to pick up the bike. Recall the Eisentraut facilitation: the thought was that the bike was much too far away from metro-Seattle for most people (the 'Traut had been listed for over two months beginning at $800 and down to $400 or so).

San Juan Island would be a 2.5 hour drive from Seattle, then an hour ferry ride just to get a look-see. For me, it was a 30 minute drive and a scenic one-hour pleasure cruise

I don't know of any other collector/rider-types here on Whidbey, although there is one BF member here (mostly spends his time on the commuter threads).

I do know one thing: the PO trusted me with this to keep, not to flip. His trust is well-placed

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So DD, I've been watching this unfold on the sidelines and I have to say that IS a score. These old Masi's are just such sweet machines! The fact that this is a one owner bike makes it all that much more neat since it rarely is the case you find something this old with a single owner.

I think that going period correct is the right thing to do with this particular bike. I can't wait to see her done!
Thanks, Dallas. I really had struggled with the PC thing since I had thought long and hard about using this for my very first IGH project, but...well, you know...

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Where are your orders for Senior Chief? One bike would be hard to make a decision on but I know the Navy don't care about these things. If you ever get duty at C.I.D. Corry Station drop me a P.M. and we will have coffee and talk bikes.

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DD, this is a great find! It's almost better that the paint is not perfect. I find that I ride my beater Masi a lot more than the one with the nice paint, and they are really meant to be ridden.
Thank you!

For now, I'm not planning on doing much except perhaps removing a bit of the surface rust and treating it so it doesn't spread. Then, I'm going to ride it for the rest of the summer; much as you've noted, I won't be nearly as afraid of riding the snot out of it in the condition it's in. Anyway, I want to give a good comparison ride-report, being as this is my first Masi and all.

She just seems to be begging for a good, hard ride.

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Congrats! That's a stunner, and totally grail worthy. I love those older decals. Sheesh, now you're giving me the lust for an older Masi. FWIW, I rode my '74 GC to work today and smiled the whole way....
Note exactly what I thought my first Masi would be, to be totally honest - I was thinking more late-70s before this baby came along.

I can well imagine the smile-on-the-way-to-work; I'm sure I'll have a big ol' grin from ear to ear on my first real ride on this time-capsule (Sunday, if my build plans come through)!

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Believe it or not, he'd not had any bites before me - and still had nobody else contact him 2.5 days later when I went to pick up the bike. R
I don't know of any other collector/rider-types here on Whidbey, although there is one BF member here (mostly spends his time on the commuter threads).
Unbelievable. If it were my size, I'd have driven hours or paid to ship it......

You got a fantastic deal on a bike that doesn't come around very often.
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Where are your orders for Senior Chief? One bike would be hard to make a decision on but I know the Navy don't care about these things. If you ever get duty at C.I.D. Corry Station drop me a P.M. and we will have coffee and talk bikes.

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Living space is at a premium - plus 1.5 years in that kind of atmosphere would wreak havoc on a collection. I'll be having my work cut out for me keeping one bike corrosion-free for this tour! But just imagine: year-round riding again; hooray!!!

Corry Station - cool! All my freshly-minted Information Systems Techs come outta there from their A-School

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In keeping with our somewhat parallel (but v. different) bike building schedules, I have also as of this morning taken on an older, yellower project
Ha - I just made a similar post on your Bertin thread (great minds think alike)

How many are you up to now - six, isn't it?

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Okay, I'll have pics of the spare stuff here in a little bit - off to take some pics of the swag

EDIT: Camera died and I'm charging the battery right now. How about some pics of the actual journey over to SJI instead for now?

Approach to San Juan Island:



Friday Harbor waterfront:



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Fog rolling in on return trip:



More pea soup:



A few facts about the trip yesterday:

- Last song I heard on the radio before I locked the car and walked onto the ferry: "California Dreamin'"

- PO bought the bike from a catalog outlet in Colorado; his first choice was a Cinelli SC, but the wait was getting out of hand so he sprung for the Masi sight-unseen

- Temps were in the low 80s starting out, but dropped into the mid 60s on the way back due to the fog/cold front

- 1.15 hours driving time, 2.10 hours ferry ride time, 1.5 hours at the PO's house bike-geekin

- .45 hours to tear down the bike to frame/fork/HS last night

- First person to get confirmation I finally had myself a Masi: shnibop

- Oh, yeah: this was my very first Craigslist experience!

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Diego Garcia, where men are men and sheep are scarred. Stay safe there SC, and enjoy the riding. Corry is one place I have built a lot of buildings and the old Instrumentman/Opticalman building we built in the late 90's is going to be a new IS and Information Dominance building. Just finished rebuilding the 1930's era fire station into a Special Ops first responder building. See your new guys marching to class and back to noon chow every day when we were there. I got my first job as the Site Quality / Civil Engineer at Corry Station. Fun to watch the Blues practice every Tuesday and Wednesday form there, too.

Ride Safe SC.

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Old 07-11-12 | 09:24 PM
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Jeez, you practically went to Canada for that thing! In fact, San Juan is north of our provincial capital if I'm not mistaken. Imagine, almost going to another country just for another bike

Beautiful. While I have none that precede the 198* pedigree (and none Italian, though G. Marinoni did apprentice with Mario Rossin in Milan in the 60s), I must admit my admiration for the particular elegance of the 60s and early 70s Italians. That one you snagged is something different, and a very special find, even if not so wild a departure as to justify the initial guesses of most of us folks on the forum here...

I at least got the town of origin right when I guessed that you might've picked up a pre-'74 Cinelli, eh?
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Well we've spoken over the phone so you know how I feel about this beauty. But I want more pictures.

BTW, the goods are in the mail.
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