Can you help identify this track frame?
09-18-13 | 01:03 PM
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09-18-13 | 01:45 PM
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I'd cut him some slack, because he was a nice guy and also because he's dead now. But folks on BF seem to follow this rule of his religiously, and I don't see any sin in saying dropout when referring to those thingies on track bikes.
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09-18-13 | 01:47 PM
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Track-ends people, they are track ends (or that's what I always called them).
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09-18-13 | 01:53 PM
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So was there anything on the steerer?
09-18-13 | 03:08 PM
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09-18-13 | 03:54 PM
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Ohhhhhhh! I get it!
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09-18-13 | 04:59 PM
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Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...
After I get the bike back from Rob, perhaps next week, I will look again. As I said in my original post, the frame and fork steerer have the same serial number stamped on: 1492. Frankly I don't expect to find anything different when I look again, though finding traces of a fifth digit would be excellent. But this next time I look I am also going to look inside the head tube. If I see putty-filled rivet holes, then I'll be sure.
09-18-13 | 05:19 PM
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[QUOTE=rhm;16080691 I am also going to look inside the head tube. If I see putty-filled rivet holes, then I'll be sure.[/QUOTE]
Remember: some CBs had only a transfer on the head tube, no badge...but if it's a Holdsworth-era CB it would be more likely to have had the badge.
Remember: some CBs had only a transfer on the head tube, no badge...but if it's a Holdsworth-era CB it would be more likely to have had the badge.
09-18-13 | 06:47 PM
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I am as satisfied with the Olympic Sprint ID as I can reasonably expect to be. Sure, I'd rather it be a sixties Witcomb than a Holdsworth-built Claud Butler, but I'd still prefer a genuine Claud Butler to a bogus Witcomb. What I'm wondering now is, would anyone ever have copied a Claud Butler of this period? Did the Claud Butler bikes of the sixties carry the prestige of the Claud Butler marque of the early fifties? I think it pretty unlikely, but what do I know. So by Occam's razor, it has to be a Claud Butler Olympic Sprint.
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