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Old 09-18-13, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by noglider
Why is it so important not to say dropout when dealing with rear-facing axle slots (to coin yet another term)?
because the pedantic coot Sheldon Brown said so on his website
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Originally Posted by tombc
because the pedantic coot Sheldon Brown said so on his website
I'd cut him some slack, because he was a nice guy and also because he's dead now. But folks on BF seem to follow this rule of his religiously, and I don't see any sin in saying dropout when referring to those thingies on track bikes.
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Track-ends people, they are track ends (or that's what I always called them).
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So was there anything on the steerer?
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Originally Posted by noglider
I'd cut him some slack, because he was a nice guy and also because he's dead now. But folks on BF seem to follow this rule of his religiously, and I don't see any sin in saying dropout when referring to those thingies on track bikes.
It's not religious! Track ends are designed not to let the wheel drop out, that's the point.
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Ohhhhhhh! I get it!
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Originally Posted by Velognome
So was there anything on the steerer?
After I get the bike back from Rob, perhaps next week, I will look again. As I said in my original post, the frame and fork steerer have the same serial number stamped on: 1492. Frankly I don't expect to find anything different when I look again, though finding traces of a fifth digit would be excellent. But this next time I look I am also going to look inside the head tube. If I see putty-filled rivet holes, then I'll be sure.
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[QUOTE=rhm;16080691 I am also going to look inside the head tube. If I see putty-filled rivet holes, then I'll be sure.[/QUOTE]

Remember: some CBs had only a transfer on the head tube, no badge...but if it's a Holdsworth-era CB it would be more likely to have had the badge.
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
Remember: some CBs had only a transfer on the head tube, no badge...but if it's a Holdsworth-era CB it would be more likely to have had the badge.
Yeah, that is pretty much what I'm thinking.

I am as satisfied with the Olympic Sprint ID as I can reasonably expect to be. Sure, I'd rather it be a sixties Witcomb than a Holdsworth-built Claud Butler, but I'd still prefer a genuine Claud Butler to a bogus Witcomb. What I'm wondering now is, would anyone ever have copied a Claud Butler of this period? Did the Claud Butler bikes of the sixties carry the prestige of the Claud Butler marque of the early fifties? I think it pretty unlikely, but what do I know. So by Occam's razor, it has to be a Claud Butler Olympic Sprint.
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