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Old 03-07-13 | 04:00 PM
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Great info guys. Will start by buying the yellow tires and giving the bike a good clean and lube everything. Will keep you guys updated with pics
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Old 03-07-13 | 04:34 PM
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Get some of these acid brushes to apply the glue. It's nearly impossible to get it cleanly off anything, so you just throw the brush away after use.
your finger stuck in the corner of one of these is cheaper, and for me more effective, too.
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Old 03-07-13 | 06:04 PM
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Hey guys, so I was checking a video on how to install the tubular tires and its a process that takes like 4 to 5 days total with waiting for the glue to dry up and apply another coat.

So there was another video were the guy is using a double sided tape and looks like an easier process. Would u guys recommend using that?
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Yes, the tape is much easier. Putting on a tubular tire is quite easy - it just sounds complicated when you've never done it before.

At first, you need to clean the rim a bit. Best way is to rub it with an old cloth and lighter fuel.

Afterwards, you put the tape on the rim. The valve hole must remain clear.

Then, you unwrap a few centimetres of the tape's upper layer each side of the valve.

Next step, you put on the tire. Inflate it a bit first. Then put the valve through the hole (make sure it's straight!) and pull it on the rim. You might have to let a bit air come out during the process.

When you have done so, you pull off the upper layer of the tape underneath it, and inflate it a bit more afterwards. Make sure the tire runs smoothly - there's still enough time to make corrections.

When you are satisified, inflate the tire to ist normal pressure, and leave it 'bout 12 hours for the glue to become hard.

Sounds complicated, but when you've done it one or two times, you'll love it and it won't take you more than 10-15 minutes.
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Old 03-07-13 | 06:54 PM
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Yes, the tape is much easier. Putting on a tubular tire is quite easy - it just sounds complicated when you've never done it before.

At first, you need to clean the rim a bit. Best way is to rub it with an old cloth and lighter fuel.

Afterwards, you put the tape on the rim. The valve hole must remain clear.

Then, you unwrap a few centimetres of the tape's upper layer each side of the valve.

Next step, you put on the tire. Inflate it a bit first. Then put the valve through the hole (make sure it's straight!) and pull it on the rim. You might have to let a bit air come out during the process.

When you have done so, you pull off the upper layer of the tape underneath it, and inflate it a bit more afterwards. Make sure the tire runs smoothly - there's still enough time to make corrections.

When you are satisified, inflate the tire to ist normal pressure, and leave it 'bout 12 hours for the glue to become hard.

Sounds complicated, but when you've done it one or two times, you'll love it and it won't take you more than 10-15 minutes.
How fun can that be without the glue fumes wafting around you!
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Old 03-07-13 | 07:04 PM
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How fun can that be without the glue fumes wafting around you!
...Working on old bikes, there are maaaany great funes... There's fuel, paint, polish...
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Old 03-07-13 | 07:06 PM
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Ok so probably will go with the tape technique then. Anyone can suggest what brand tape is good or they all the same?
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Old 03-07-13 | 07:52 PM
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Question: How much you guys think my bike I worth?

And before someone asks, NO I will not sell it jaja just curious in how much this bike is worth with all the goodies it has.
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Old 03-07-13 | 10:16 PM
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I think there is only one brand of tape for Sew-ups (tubular) tires, and that brand is Tufo. Some say that "extreme" is the only type to use...others may disagree...
Hard to start estimating value since we don't yet know what brand bike you have...but there's a place to do that and it's the Classic & Vintage Evaluation sub-forum.
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Old 03-09-13 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
IMHO, the best value in tubular tires is Yellow jersey's "pair and a spare" for $50:

https://www.yellowjersey.org/tt.html

Get some glue while you're there. Tubulars generally aren't difficult to install, but it can be messy, particularly if you're inexperienced. It helps to stretch the tires on the rims for a while before gluing them down.

I'm surprised nobody's asked this yet: what's the threading on the bottom bracket shell and steer tube?
Have you ever purchased from this website?
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Old 03-09-13 | 12:30 PM
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I think there is only one brand of tape for Sew-ups (tubular) tires, and that brand is Tufo. Some say that "extreme" is the only type to use...others may disagree...
Hard to start estimating value since we don't yet know what brand bike you have...but there's a place to do that and it's the Classic & Vintage Evaluation sub-forum.
Wow Tufo brand is really expensive it's about $15 per tire. There is another brand called CX Tape and its $10 for both tires. Have you heard of that brand?

Bike will not be a racing bike or a daily or anything like that. Just wanna be able to ride it around my house for a few miles.
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Old 03-09-13 | 08:59 PM
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that CX tape needs to be used with a tubular glue (such as Vittoria) so your cost will go up (maybe messiness too).
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Have you ever purchased from this [www.yellowjersey.org] website?
No, I live close enough that I go to the storefront to buy things.
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Old 03-09-13 | 09:56 PM
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I had two bikes that looked just like that bike . They were Paris Sport bikes. One was all Campy and the other was all lower end parts. I think the name Paris Sport was used by the imported and the bike ran from the high end to very low end French models. The bike frames looked the same but only one was 531 tubing. I bought the pair for the Campy parts.
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Old 03-09-13 | 10:46 PM
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possible: Paris Sport was the brand of Vic and Mike Fraysse's New Jersey shop. They brought in a lot of frames built in France by a Dangre-Starnord company, but also employed framebuilders in the "backroom" of the NJ shop...builders that included some very notable names such as Pepe Limongi, Francesco Cuevas and Dave Moulton!
I haven't seen any Paris Sports that look "just like" the OP's, but I'd love to see them...as would the OP.
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Old 03-10-13 | 03:26 AM
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Tubulars have been turned into something mystical by the internet. They're not. Buy the tires from Yellow Jersey. Strech them by sticking your foot in one side and pulling the other. With a tiny amount of common sense you can feel the tire strech and then stop before you hurt the tire. Use 3M Fast Tack for glue. It will keep the tire on the rim and as an added bonus, you will be able to remove it on the side of the road if you get flat. Put a layer of glue on the tire and a layer on the rim. Wait about an hour and put the tire on starting with the valve and working around. Hold the wheel betweem your legs and use your feet to hold it to the floor while you pull the tire on around the rim. Getting a friend to help the first time would be a good idea. Let it dry for a day then pump it up to about 100 psi. Try to peel the inflated tire off with your hands. If you can't, you are ready to ride. The 5 day process you rad about will leave you stranded on the side of the road because all that glue will prevent you from removing the punctured tire. What's the point of carrying a spare if you can't put it on?
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Old 03-15-13 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
IMHO, the best value in tubular tires is Yellow jersey's "pair and a spare" for $50:

https://www.yellowjersey.org/tt.html

Get some glue while you're there. Tubulars generally aren't difficult to install, but it can be messy, particularly if you're inexperienced. It helps to stretch the tires on the rims for a while before gluing them down.

I'm surprised nobody's asked this yet: what's the threading on the bottom bracket shell and steer tube?
im about to order the tires. Are they a one size only or I have to find out what size I need first?

And I already purchased the Tufo tape. Hope it hold ok.

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