can anyone identfy this frame ?
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Nice and elegantly presented frame. I would guess at an early 80's build. Personally I don't think it will be identified as it doesn't seem to have any identifying features. I may be wrong though as there are some very well informed members of this forum. It would be nice to see what the underside of the bottom bracket looks like though.
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looks nice but nothing much there to hang a name on: fairly generic late-70s/early-80s Italian...shot of BB might help, also the stay ends (on DOs), so far the only thing really distinctive is the style of TT cable guide, but even with that there are a few different builders who used them.
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I agree there's nothing too distinctive about the frame, but the extremely long chrome plated concave seat stay caps are a little unusual.
Also, the fork crown pretty obviously has cast plugs for the securing the blades (the blades are fitted over the plugs and brazed) giving a clean, light appearance. I've used sloping crowns with plugs (Cinelli type, picture below), but this one with a flat top is particularly elegant to my eye.
Also, the fork crown pretty obviously has cast plugs for the securing the blades (the blades are fitted over the plugs and brazed) giving a clean, light appearance. I've used sloping crowns with plugs (Cinelli type, picture below), but this one with a flat top is particularly elegant to my eye.
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Also, the fork crown pretty obviously has cast plugs for the securing the blades (the blades are fitted over the plugs and brazed) giving a clean, light appearance. I've used sloping crowns with plugs (Cinelli type, picture below), but this one with a flat top is particularly elegant to my eye.

There's a pretty obvious external socket visible in this picture:
It does look similar to that Olmo, though.
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Could be, but with the outboard tangs clipped there wouldn't seem to be much meat left on the outboard surface of the socket to solidly anchor the blades.
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Yeah it's sort of close but I'm not convinced: for one most Olmos from that era have at least something pantographed, the reason the example shown doesn't is because it's a "budget model" with Falck tubing and nearly no chrome, GPM DOs, too. Bet yours has a 27.2 seat post and rifling in the steerer, bet the Olmo shown does not. Add to this all the other details (forkcrown and even the TT guides which are similar but no match). I'd say Olmo is one contender, but I wouldn't close the case...yet...
I'd still like to see those additional pics.
I'd still like to see those additional pics.
Last edited by unworthy1; 07-21-13 at 11:57 PM.
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Yeah it's sort of close but I'm not convinced: for one most Olmos from that era have at least something pantographed, the reason the example shown doesn't is because it's a "budget model" with Falck tubing and nearly no chrome, GPM DOs, too. Bet yours has a 27.2 seat post and rifling in the steerer, bet the Olmo shown does not. Add to this all the other details (forkcrown and even the TT guides which are similar but no match). I'd say Olmo is one contender, but I wouldn't close the case...yet...
I'd still like to see those additional pics.
I'd still like to see those additional pics.
Last edited by onespeedbiker; 07-22-13 at 10:41 AM.
#11
another possibility (for both the "Olmo" above and the OP's) might be Romani. This is a popular fall-back because Romani did A LOT of contract-building for many brands as well as shop and house-brands, were very active in the era represented (short DOs but still nutted brakes and both types of cable-routing) and they liked those fluted stay caps, those pierced lugs and that style forkcrown, but really would build to order so their style clues are varied. They could do something very nicely finished with ample chrome, or more plain-jane. They also didn't mark them in any way, usually not even serial numbered.
When in doubt, think "Romani".
When in doubt, think "Romani".
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Hers a GettoCal in case you want to plaster something on that nice frame after you get it built up...
Details on GettoCals are here - Goto #85 ...
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...light=gettocal
Details on GettoCals are here - Goto #85 ...
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