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Old 07-20-13 | 08:45 AM
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can anyone identfy this frame ?



It has Italian BB.Fork-ends and drop-outs are campagnolo.Re-painted frame.
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Old 07-20-13 | 08:55 AM
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Nice and elegantly presented frame. I would guess at an early 80's build. Personally I don't think it will be identified as it doesn't seem to have any identifying features. I may be wrong though as there are some very well informed members of this forum. It would be nice to see what the underside of the bottom bracket looks like though.
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Old 07-20-13 | 11:18 AM
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looks nice but nothing much there to hang a name on: fairly generic late-70s/early-80s Italian...shot of BB might help, also the stay ends (on DOs), so far the only thing really distinctive is the style of TT cable guide, but even with that there are a few different builders who used them.
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Old 07-20-13 | 11:41 AM
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I agree there's nothing too distinctive about the frame, but the extremely long chrome plated concave seat stay caps are a little unusual.

Also, the fork crown pretty obviously has cast plugs for the securing the blades (the blades are fitted over the plugs and brazed) giving a clean, light appearance. I've used sloping crowns with plugs (Cinelli type, picture below), but this one with a flat top is particularly elegant to my eye.

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Old 07-20-13 | 11:46 AM
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I'm thinking Olmo https://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpe...lSideRight.jpg

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Old 07-20-13 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooper
Also, the fork crown pretty obviously has cast plugs for the securing the blades (the blades are fitted over the plugs and brazed) giving a clean, light appearance. I've used sloping crowns with plugs (Cinelli type, picture below), but this one with a flat top is particularly elegant to my eye.
Looks more like a Cinelli MC external crown to me, with the outer tangs truncated:



There's a pretty obvious external socket visible in this picture:



It does look similar to that Olmo, though.

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Old 07-20-13 | 05:39 PM
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Looks more like a Cinelli MC external crown to me, with the outer tangs truncated.
Could be, but with the outboard tangs clipped there wouldn't seem to be much meat left on the outboard surface of the socket to solidly anchor the blades.
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Old 07-21-13 | 04:38 PM
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Olmo is the closest.
Thnx for the help people
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Old 07-21-13 | 11:54 PM
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Yeah it's sort of close but I'm not convinced: for one most Olmos from that era have at least something pantographed, the reason the example shown doesn't is because it's a "budget model" with Falck tubing and nearly no chrome, GPM DOs, too. Bet yours has a 27.2 seat post and rifling in the steerer, bet the Olmo shown does not. Add to this all the other details (forkcrown and even the TT guides which are similar but no match). I'd say Olmo is one contender, but I wouldn't close the case...yet...
I'd still like to see those additional pics.

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Old 07-22-13 | 10:37 AM
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Yeah it's sort of close but I'm not convinced: for one most Olmos from that era have at least something pantographed, the reason the example shown doesn't is because it's a "budget model" with Falck tubing and nearly no chrome, GPM DOs, too. Bet yours has a 27.2 seat post and rifling in the steerer, bet the Olmo shown does not. Add to this all the other details (forkcrown and even the TT guides which are similar but no match). I'd say Olmo is one contender, but I wouldn't close the case...yet...
I'd still like to see those additional pics.
This is a photo of my frame that I also believe to be an Olmo. There is no chrome, however it is a Columbus frame set with the fork stamped "Columbus" (rifling in the steerer) and a 27.2 seat tube and Campy dropouts. However it should be noted that the lug work is quite a bit nicer than the OP's.

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another possibility (for both the "Olmo" above and the OP's) might be Romani. This is a popular fall-back because Romani did A LOT of contract-building for many brands as well as shop and house-brands, were very active in the era represented (short DOs but still nutted brakes and both types of cable-routing) and they liked those fluted stay caps, those pierced lugs and that style forkcrown, but really would build to order so their style clues are varied. They could do something very nicely finished with ample chrome, or more plain-jane. They also didn't mark them in any way, usually not even serial numbered.

When in doubt, think "Romani".
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Old 07-22-13 | 12:36 PM
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Hers a GettoCal in case you want to plaster something on that nice frame after you get it built up...
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