Help Identify This Classic
09-10-13 | 04:14 PM
#1
Thread Starter
JHD
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 58
Likes: 145
From: Detroit Suburbs
Bikes: A bunch
Help Identify This Classic
Picked this up last weekend.
Campy Record Group.
Rear Derailleur PAT 72.
Campy Seat Post 26.6 with a Brooks Professional saddle.
Campy Brakes and levers
Unknown Bars and Stem.
Suntour Bar end Shifters
Champion Super Competition Rims (Gentlemen)
Sew Up Tires
Campy Record Hubs with skewers
Any ideas in the frame? Has 531 Reynolds decal on the seat tube. Other than that, no markings.
Campy dropouts and Campy fork tips.
Was offered as a Motobecane but no markings that I can find.
Campy Record Group.
Rear Derailleur PAT 72.
Campy Seat Post 26.6 with a Brooks Professional saddle.
Campy Brakes and levers
Unknown Bars and Stem.
Suntour Bar end Shifters
Champion Super Competition Rims (Gentlemen)
Sew Up Tires
Campy Record Hubs with skewers
Any ideas in the frame? Has 531 Reynolds decal on the seat tube. Other than that, no markings.
Campy dropouts and Campy fork tips.
Was offered as a Motobecane but no markings that I can find.
09-10-13 | 04:24 PM
#2
Bianchi Goddess
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 28,874
Likes: 4,118
From: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.
I could be wrong but I think it is a Bicycle.
__________________
“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"
Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"
Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
09-10-13 | 09:55 PM
#4
feros ferio
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 22,394
Likes: 1,862
From: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
It should be easy to distinguish a Raleigh Super Course (28.6mm seat tube OD, 1.375x24 BB cups) from a Motobecane (28.0mm seat tube, 35x1 BB cups)
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
09-11-13 | 06:48 PM
#6
Still learning
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 11,529
Likes: 87
From: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Bikes: Still a garage full
Is that part of the Royal Oak, Michigan pair of Motos you bought for $450? (That's what the seller told me).
If so, I think the seller said his grandparents used them in a tour of France, not that one, The Tour du France, which probably means they are a non US model. Check the Francais catalogs. Neither Auchencrow, noted midwest professor of Motobecane history, nor I, a possessor of probably more French bikes than a normal guy should have, could ID it.
If so, I think the seller said his grandparents used them in a tour of France, not that one, The Tour du France, which probably means they are a non US model. Check the Francais catalogs. Neither Auchencrow, noted midwest professor of Motobecane history, nor I, a possessor of probably more French bikes than a normal guy should have, could ID it.
09-11-13 | 07:32 PM
#7
Thread Starter
JHD
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 58
Likes: 145
From: Detroit Suburbs
Bikes: A bunch
Is that part of the Royal Oak, Michigan pair of Motos you bought for $450? (That's what the seller told me).
If so, I think the seller said his grandparents used them in a tour of France, not that one, The Tour du France, which probably means they are a non US model. Check the Francais catalogs. Neither Auchencrow, noted midwest professor of Motobecane history, nor I, a possessor of probably more French bikes than a normal guy should have, could ID it.
If so, I think the seller said his grandparents used them in a tour of France, not that one, The Tour du France, which probably means they are a non US model. Check the Francais catalogs. Neither Auchencrow, noted midwest professor of Motobecane history, nor I, a possessor of probably more French bikes than a normal guy should have, could ID it.
Yes. His mother in-law didn't want to haggle so I paid the asking price. They were her parents bikes and she didn't know the entire history, just that her father was a serious cyclist.
I'm not sure it's a Motobecane.
The mixte sure is and it's late 70's where this bike has pre 74 components.
It's a winter or spring project.
It appears that the frame has been repainted at some point. Maybe I'll discover markings when I get around to rebuilding it.
09-11-13 | 08:16 PM
#8
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,302
Likes: 52
From: NYC+NNJ
Bikes: i don't have a bike. a few frames, forks and some parts. that's all
guessing from the cut shape of the seat-stay ends, i'd suggest it's a Gitane?
Gitane TDF model around '70 used similar lugs — Bocama? — and similar DOs, i guess.
i could be wrong...
Gitane TDF model around '70 used similar lugs — Bocama? — and similar DOs, i guess.
i could be wrong...
09-11-13 | 10:57 PM
#9
I vote against Gitane: a frame with Campy 1010 dropouts would have to be a Super Corsa (or an unusual TdF) and this frame does not have any details that match those 2 models. Doesn't ring any definite big-name French bells (not a Moto, or a Peugeot) so then you're into the more obscure: I can't say whether Mercier is a good guess, might be, but it would have to be a model 300 (which normally has Simplex DOs and ends). Stella, Bertin, Follis...none of those hits me as a match. Serial number or other details are gonna be necessary: forkcrown (is it a Vagner?) bridges, etc.
Last edited by unworthy1; 09-11-13 at 11:23 PM.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RideMyLeMond
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
12
01-24-17 10:55 AM
vintagerando
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
19
08-17-15 10:23 PM
