Hello Everybody

My name is Sébastien, I'm the owner and seller of the Eddy Merckx bikes on Ebay.
Ok my english is not perfect, sorry for that but if you are questions, they are "welcome".
The ad with the Merckx's bike and Bruyère's bikes were cleaned because there are some confusion...
Exemple: "why this guy send a link with a blue handlebars tape on the Merckx bike ? the pictures show white handlebars tape!!!"
Answer: because before to found the correct white handlebars tape, i have only blue tape and it's why the blue tape was on the bike before the white handlebars tape
the pictures of the blue tape were order.....

There will be soon new correct pictures of these bikes.

Now when a french guy said, these bikes were a StalenRos and the ridders of the bikes where differents rideers that Merckx and Bruyère. it's not the Truth!
And i don't know why this guy don't come show me and talk about my bikes????

It's easy to said that the bikes are not From Merckx and Bruyère, very very easy and maybe my fault is to talk about expensive price about this bike... i know that.
But you will know soon the story of this bikes, you will receive new links for the guys who want the new pictures and you will see....
If you want see a part of my collection, you can click of the link under this file.

Sorry sorry if my english is not perfect but i think for everybody, it's better to talk directly with the seller (me) that to do a bige mistake about my.

Thanks

Sébastien
(Tourcoing / France)
Instagram user name: paris_roubaix1973

Vélo d'Eddy Merckx DE ROSA



https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/velo%20d%20eddy%20merckx

Vélo de Joseph Bruyère DE ROSA


https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/bruyere%20molteni%20bike

Vélo Kessels Molteni de 1973
https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/merckx%20kessels%201973
Vélo Kessels Molteni de 1975

https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/kessels%20molteni%20%201975

Cadre Kessels Molteni de 1975

https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/cadre%20kessels%20molteni%201975

Vélo Kessels FIAT de 1977

https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/merckx%20kessels%20fiat

Vélo GAN "francois Lemarchand" 1995

https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/Merckx%20GAN

4 vélos GAN (Colotti, Pretot, Simon, Déramé) 1995-1997

https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/others%20merckx%20GAN%20bikes?sort=3&page=1

Vélo GAN blanc de François SIMON

https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/merckx%20gan%20white

Vélo GAN réplica

https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/merckx%20GAN%20REPLICA

2 Vélos de piste rouge et gris

Merckx Pista Bike Photos by stratohiwatt | Photobucket



Vélo de piste rouge MX-Leader

Red Pista Mx-leader Photos by stratohiwatt | Photobucket
Vélo aéro bleu fonçé

https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/merckx%2056X56%20aero



Vélo aéro bleu ciel



https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/merckx%20aero%201978
Vélo de cyclo-cross TITANE

Merckx CX Photos by stratohiwatt | Photobucket



Cadre de cyclo-cross acier

https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/merckx%20cyclocross%20steel

Cadres de cyclo-cross CORSA 01

https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/merckx%20cyclocross%20twins

Vélo de Patrick SERCU Mx-Leader



https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/MxLeader%20Patrick%20Sercu



Vélo Merckx Titane



https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/merckx%20aero%201978/merckx%20titane



Cadre avec signature 1979

Merckx Bleu Signature 59 X 59 Photos by stratohiwatt | Photobucket
Cadre numéro 5

Merckx Number 5 Photos by stratohiwatt | Photobucket


Vélo carbone EMX-7 équipe "TOPSPORT"



https://s574.photobucket.com/user/stratohiwatt/library/emx7

ps: il reste encore un cadre et toutes les pièces CAMPAGNOLO pour finir les vélos sont fournis!



total:28 vélos

Well, I for one am glad you checked in here; now we can perhaps get the story that might just prove the Merckx owner/ridership.

As noted many times in this thread - and in the questions section of the auction - people will want proof for that kind of money. Word of the seller via the Internet, honestly, just doesn't cut it. That's just an honest assessment of most people's sentiments.

Looking forward to hearing more about the history of this bike.

DD

His brother Nick is the interesting one, stated in the most charming kind of way. I like him very much. partskeepers or something like that used to be an active web site for him. Very down to earth.

Alex is different but both appreciate bicycles. Alex used to be very careful and when a bike shipped it was yours, his responsibility was done… that concept does not fly the same way all over.
I have not followed his auctions in quite some time so my comments as to sales terms may not be current.

That is why I came up with only one "esteemed" seller.

Interesting to see a post from the seller of these bikes, hopefully his takeaway will be that when selling online it is much different than selling a bike in person. Presentation can be everything.

Sebastien,

I'm also glad you checked in here. Although most of here will not be financially able to buy the Merckx bike, we all are very interested in what is potentially a significant part of cycling history. I also agree that the people that are able to afford a bike of this price will be very skeptical and will want definitive proof of its provenance.

I will continue to follow the auction for the bike with great interest. And please don't feel the need to apologize for your english, it is much better than my french!

FOB origin is the standard all over for a business shipment. FOB destination is the anomaly and would require a premium price.

No, my clients are FOB "OUR Dock".

ebay is not in general FOB from the point of shipment. As we are in general discussing ebay auctions or sellers, those who participate in that format are subject to their arrangements.
A side comment would be that to not insure a transatlantic shipment for an item would be a considerable risk in my view.

yeah, and those art dealers are also taking a minimum 30% cut- often times more. thats how all these private auction and other dealers operate.

ebay on the other hand only charges 10% and has a far larger customer base than any private dealer. you do the math.

history of bicycles:


I bought two bikes in May 2013 in the same person .
His name is Willy and he lives in the town of Voroux- Goreux (it's not far from Lièges, Belgium )



I still have the phone number and address of this guy.
How I found these bikes?



By putting ads on Belgian classifieds sites , this person, Willy , contacted me saying she had biking Joseph Bruyère .
At first I did not believe! I asked for pictures including the bottom bracket to see if the bike was a good bike De Rosa . Surprise there , it was a bike of the Molteni team.


I wanted to understand the origin of the bike because it is not easy to find. I called Willy and he told me he had bought the bike in 1976 at the end of the Molteni team through his friend. He also said that at the time two other bikes were also bought the team with a Merckx and the third another rider .


I thought dream! there, he told me he will get in touch with one of his friends (who holds that Merckx ) but this may be complicated because this friend is in a " house for person who had health problem " and it will go through his children. Ok ! I would never see the bike I say!


When I 'll get the bike, I go around the bike Bruyère , I pay , I put it in my car and I asked Willy if he had news from Merckx's bike. To my surprise and dropped with a smile , he asked me to follow him behind the house. Here, a second bike Molteni , The Eddy Merckx ! I look , I measure the frame, no doubt that's it!


Not having the money for the bike heather , I ask him where to find a bank to pay the bike Merckx after finding an agreement on the price.


I managed to find the bank and take the money to pay for the second bike.


This does not explain the origin of bikes!



So after paying the second bike Willy makes me come home for a beer and there begins the explanation of the origin. The first thing was to show me a photo album and I understood everything at once !



Joseph is a personal friend of the family! In this album we see when he was young , invited to the wedding ....
Besides Joseph Bruyère worked in the masonry business of the father of his friend ( who has since died , Willy was submitted with the wife of his friend ) when he stopped his career because he had no money . This album was exciting because it shows a part of the life of Bruyère .


Bruyère was the link between the kids and their families that they were in 1976 and the purchase of these three bikes the Molteni team. Willy bought the Bruyère , his friend that Merckx and the third (with a chrome fork ) I have not seen and therefore not purchased.


I got a team picture with an autograph of Joseph Bruyère.


Of course , the bikes were not in the condition we see today. They have been completely dismantled and reassembled with parts that were on bicycles. With the exception of wear parts such as cables, pads .... Willy also gave me a few extra pieces that are part of the history of bicycles.

youre categorically wrong in every concievable way on that.

and no, the auction houses dont charge the buyer anything. buyer bids $1k on an item, buyer pays $1k and recieves item. transaction over. auctioners make their cut based upon an agreed upon percentage of what the item sells for.

Where on ebay does it state FOB destination?

That's a good story and all, but that is not proof of anything. if that's the only provenance he has, there's no way he's going to get the kind of money he's asking.

if i walked into a sports store with a Babe Ruth signature on a baseball, they would need a lot more than me just saying "a friend of a friend of a friend new babe ruth. and i bought this off of him after we had a beer together."

One should, IMO, be careful about strident declarations.
Here is a link to Skinner Auctions in Boston. And provision number ten in their conditions of sale info for buyers.

10. A premium equal to 23% of the final bid price up to and including $100,000, plus 20% of the final bid price from $100,001 up to and including $1,000,000, plus 12% of the final bid price from $1,000,001 and over will be applied to each lot sold, to be paid by the buyer as part of the purchase price.

Conditions of Sale | Skinner | Skinner Auctioneers

And from Christies New York

HOW MUCH YOU WILL PAY
If you are successful you will pay the hammer price plus buyer’s premium on each lot (25% of the
first $100,000 of the hammer price, plus 20% of the excess of the hammer price above $100,000 up to and including $2,000,000, plus 12% of
any amount in excess of $2,000,000), together
with any additional applicable charges, sales or compensating tax or equivalent tax in the place
of sale which shall be applied on the hammer
price and premium at the applicable rate. There is
a PAYMENT AND SUCCESSFUL BIDS section at the back of this catalogue.

https://www.christies.com/features/gu...20Buy%20NY.pdf

Sorry Sébastien
I'm not french.
I made a mistake
I realized it and corrected on a following post :
The 2 bikes were exposed at the Stalen Ros and I'm not the only one to talk about them

Why not come at my home a talk about my bikes with a good beers?
you are belgium, I'm french and only some kilometers are beetwen us
I would like know you experience about Merckx De Rosa, Merckx Kessels... and why my bike were not original.
You are welcome, I show you my others bikes as my GAN Eddy Merckx bikes collection.

Huh? You've never heard of a buyer's premium? Ten percent is the standard. Not at Billy-Jo-Bob's Chicken Shack - n - Awkshun Haus, but at major auctions for big stuff, like cars, artwork, etc.

If I may quote Jesse Jackson on SNL: "the point is moot!"

As an eBay seller, you have to get the item to the buyer, and the buyer has to be satisfied with it, or he/she can file a claim for various reasons, and typically eBay will side with the buyer unless the situation has no remotely grey areas whatsoever. Ergo, you gotta ensure that it gets there in the firstest place....

correct me if im wrong, but the buyer is not paying an additional percentage, that is the percentage cut the auction house takes. for example, someone bids $100,000 for an item, $23,000 of that goes to the auction house, $77k goes to the seller. there is no additional tax that the house makes the buyer pay- doing so would hinder buisness.

anyways, im sure you could find one exception to the rule somewhere to pretty much anything. ive been heavily involved with dozens of auctions and every one of them operates like i originally described.

It functions that way. Forget the technical terms, as ebay uses their own concepts.
If you buy something and it is covered by buyer protection, the burden is on the seller to get it to you as described safely or ebay will not protect the seller in a dispute. And they better require a signature for proof of delivery, or they are naked. On a sizable purchase like a bicycle, otherwise would be foolish for the seller.
Overseas purchases are tricky of course due to the long transit times. If the buyer has not received the item within a month and files a dispute, "item not received" the seller will be on the hook, or the insurance carrier for the shipment. Sometimes things resolve themselves over time as the item shows up a few weeks later, sometimes not.

Domestic is much more straightforward of course.

Sébastien, thank you for signing up and posting. I am sure your english is better than any foreign language I could attempt, no apology necessary.

The information on the bikes is interesting, and bicycles don't come with identity documents. Good luck with obtaining the price you are offering the bikes for.
In the near term, please enjoy them.

I have a few bikes that have some decent value, the trick will be to get someone to pay the price I think they are worth when and if I decide to sell them.

OK. Buyer's premiums are premiums that are charged to buyers in addition to the hammer price. On top of the final price when the hammer falls. We're talking major auction houses here, but even many smaller auction places charge buyer's premiums.
Small, local auctions? Probably not.

FWIW: even the small, local auction house down the road from me, Eldred's, charges a buyer's premium. From their web site.
"A buyer's premium of 18% will be added to the hammer price to be paid by the buyer as part of the purchase price."

OK. That's enough off topic nonsense from me.

A timely lesson on ebay presentation:

1972 Masi Team FERRETTI Replica 55cc Campagnolo 3TTT Regina Vintage Road Bike VG | eBay

Applause.

Hi Sebastien,

To a prospective buyer are you willing to give Willy's email address so that he can confirmed that this bike was ridden by Eddy Merckx?
Because to be honest, the Ebay listing and parts of your story suggest that you may have come to this conclusion simply because the frame size matches your idea of a frame size that Eddy Merckx would of ridden.

Normally this type of story is ok amongst friends but for a 25000 euros price tag this story offers no proof whatsoever.

Correct. I don't know what I was thinking. Same goes for returns. I don't offer any returns yet a low-life buyer could force the issue if they are inclined.

As for international sales, I buy mostly from ebay.it. In hundreds of purchases, I have opened did not receive item 3 times. I wait until the 6-week limit ebay allows. Then you used to get another 4 weeks to resolve. In that case 1 item arrived within a couple of days, 1 item never arrived and escalated to get a refund.

The last item was recent, maybe 3 -4 months ago. I opened a claim at 6 weeks figuring ebay would give me another 4 weeks for the item to arrive. They didn't and nearly immediately refunded my money. I don't know why they were so quick to refund, must be a "new" policy. Needless to say, the item arrived 2 weeks later. I couldn't resend the funds through ebay, had to use paypal directly. What a stupid system.

Yeah. This guy really knows what he's doing. Best pics on ebay. Bar none.