jsigone

OUCH!! I don't think I'm ready for that type of heat yet!!

Fldaves

Beer is a superfood. It's quenches thirsts, loads carbs and does wonders for batter, can chicken and cheese soup!

TrojanHorse

No, I did neither route on account of lazy.

No, I didn't pack the bike, I rode it down there! Cripes! I did go for a short day on Wednesday but was otherwise too busy drinking beer and wine. Ahem.

tunavic

You should be flogged in public.

jsigone

jeez how long was the ride there? I live like 10 min away from that joint

TrojanHorse

It wouldn't help.

About 90 to Breakwater, where Victor gave up and took the train home, and another 20 miles for me up and over the hill.

jsigone

thats not bad, will only take a double century to make it to Stone brewery and back home.....or Uber back home drunk haha

TrojanHorse

Will they let you back on the base if you're tilted over to the side a little while riding?

jsigone

If you make it that far, you should be good enough for the other 85miles

jsigone

I need to find the shut off switch for the 1 oclock winds in my area. Sometimes I'd like to listen to my music

kc0bbq

So, if you mess up and overdo what you know the tires you have on your bike can handle and have a fairly excellent crash, is it a sign of weakness to change to a competitor's tire that's essentially the same?

I had Gatorskins on because we were just coming to the end of broken bottle season here and they don't stick to the road very well. Don't imagine other puncture resistant tires are any different, but my brain keeps shifting the blame onto the Gatorskins. I'm concerned that if I keep blaming the tires I'm going to be a hazard in a group whenever they slip in a normally harmless way when I put them back on again in the fall for when the high school kids start binging on Absolut again and tossing the bottles out on the road.

jsigone

gatorskins NEVER stick the road well IMO, they are hard cased tires designed for durability. If you want to stick the road, get some gp4000s ii (23 or 25c)

kc0bbq

Kind of figured that was the answer (have a pair of 4000S ii that I was waiting until the roads got cleaner to put on).

Week before Memorial Day is the wrong time to crash... You miss too many really great rides around here, and the weather has been perfect for them. If I had just slowed for the corner just a little bit more I would be out there.

jsigone

i hope nothing was broken....like the bike

kc0bbq

The bike, the important thing, was protected from the ground (other than the bar tape and a couple new scratches on the skewer ends after it unclipped and went its own way) by my pelvis, which ended up with two stable cracks and a tiny buckle fracture. Hurts, but no danger of anything moving on me, so I'm good to get on the trainer as I feel comfortable, and on the road when I can manage it. Fair bit of road rash, but it's healing.

It was a sharp right hand turn, but I fell to the left - rear stepped out and then came back into line really violently somehow, which caused the front of the bike to start bouncing around. Don't think I panicked much - didn't have to fight my instincts and kept my hands on the bars, but I had to have done something wrong. Nothing stands out before the front wheel went crazy, but I've probably gone done that hill during repeats a hundred times in the last two years so it might have been hidden by routine.

The rider in front of me was an MD, so that worked out nicely.

TrojanHorse

Tires are consumables... just shrug and accept it.

As for traction, maybe try fancier tires with those tuffy liners to limit your bad season flatting. The ride won't be as plush but is probably still better than gatorskins and of course, traction will be superior.

indyfabz

Bike arrived at the Missoula REI yesterday morning. About 75%packed. Flying out there on Tuesday. Weather looking good. The excitement is hard to contain.

kc0bbq

For some reason that had never occurred to me. It's not like I didn't know about the existence liners... I think I'll give that a shot. The Gatorskins never felt all that good to ride on, anyway, so even if liners make tires with better grip feel equally as dead I still haven't lost anything.

I'll move the Gatorskins to the bike I intend to use as a commuter if I can ever be bothered to get a rack and some panniers to put on it. They'll work for that, I think.

TrojanHorse

Forgot my HR strap tonight. Said "eh" and drove to water polo practice, at which point I remembered that I forgot my garmin too.

So... phone strava and a non-hardcore ride and I still ended up with #4 on some stupid mup near me. (that I've ridden about 100 times)

Go figure.

DrIsotope

The only type of racing I participate in, racing against myself. last year vs. this year, same exact route.

RubeRad

Hey, you guys are Carbo Loading again this month?

DrIso, how did you do the same route in less time (and more elevation?), but less suffering?

DrIsotope

Strava figures the Suffer Score based on heart rate zones. My average HR for the ride was 8 beats lower, which was apparently enough to drop the score down. In June of 2015, my LTHR was 156-- so I basically spent the entire ride right at threshold, so I was wasted after the ride. My LTHR is now 164, so today I spent +80% of the ride well below threshold, even though I'm never at even 90% capacity, because I don't know how to take rest days or properly pace myself-- he legs are pretty much always sore. This year, my average ride has crept up from 32 miles to 39 miles, and riding days have gone from 5 a week to 7 a week.

The altitude is surprisingly close-- less than a 1% variance. Solid performance for a Garmin.

I am a jumbled heap of base miles.

TrojanHorse

Obviously you didn't have a power meter last time around and it looks like even though your avg power was estimated to be lower, you did more work last time. How is that even possible?

Nice gain though, apparently putting in the miles is benefiting you.

DrIsotope

I guess that's the difference 15lbs makes. If memory serves, I was about that much heavier for the ride in 2015. Well, that and still being really out of shape at the time-- I was struggling to do 80-90 miles a week, and I don't mean time-wise. I mean riding two days in a row was all but impossible. I needed 36-48 hours of recovery after a 34 mile ride.

TrojanHorse

Speaking of which... what does that speed figure mean? It doesn't look right. 34 miles in 1:51 isn't 23 mph. And what website is that? The info look interesting.