Keep an open mind! Being nice works!
09-16-15 | 04:12 PM
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09-16-15 | 04:26 PM
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Why do you think it took so long for U.S. auto makers to include headlight flashers on their cars (and move the brights control off the floor)?
The idea of flashing and passing on the left is not only unknown to many Americans, it is considered offensive to a great many as well...
The idea of flashing and passing on the left is not only unknown to many Americans, it is considered offensive to a great many as well...
We can do it on moving walkways at the airport but can't do it on roadways where it will save lives instead of a few seconds.
09-16-15 | 04:34 PM
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The guy sounded nice, but his job description made me think of someone who recruits.... for multi-level marketing schemes. So be careful of that, but what your saying about keeping your mind open is true.
The other day i was riding on the road, off to the right and this kid flys around me, swears and says something about getting off the road and riding on the sidewalk. I don't know what came over me at first but i felt like i wanted to pull him out of his car.... so i get into a high gear and start pedaling, and motion for him to stop and come at me. He stops his car, and i get to his driver window and i had a calm come over me, instead of saying things that would have been in a rage i explained to him that i had the right to be on the road more then i do on a sidewalk, and being a bike commuter i can't please people on the road and the sidewalk....... and you know what, he apologized actually quite nicely and we parted ways....
The other day i was riding on the road, off to the right and this kid flys around me, swears and says something about getting off the road and riding on the sidewalk. I don't know what came over me at first but i felt like i wanted to pull him out of his car.... so i get into a high gear and start pedaling, and motion for him to stop and come at me. He stops his car, and i get to his driver window and i had a calm come over me, instead of saying things that would have been in a rage i explained to him that i had the right to be on the road more then i do on a sidewalk, and being a bike commuter i can't please people on the road and the sidewalk....... and you know what, he apologized actually quite nicely and we parted ways....
09-17-15 | 04:31 AM
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09-17-15 | 06:26 AM
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people in NYC are jerks or crazy for the most part...but i do this too.
i'm just default nice mostly b/c i know i don't further our cause by not. i'm usually pleasantly surprised by others responding better than i expect.
i'm just default nice mostly b/c i know i don't further our cause by not. i'm usually pleasantly surprised by others responding better than i expect.
09-17-15 | 06:50 AM
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In Minnesota about 1 in 100 drivers are jerks (and maybe another 30 are oblivious). This applies outside of cars as well I think. In Florida it's maybe 2 out of 100. In New York it's probably 4 out of 100 (two of whom are cab drivers). It's sad that these so very few have such as huge negative impact on so many.
This can be seen with loud talking as well. I spend a lot of time in one or another café, like two or so hours every morning. Invariably a group of two or three people or one idiot with a cell phone will come in talking really loud. Until they arrived the noise level of the 50 or 80 people will have been fairly low and will return to fairly low after they leave. Or after someone, which is becoming increasingly common, tells them to pipe down. A tiny few making life less pleasant for many.
09-17-15 | 08:30 AM
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I find the majority of New Yorkers to be pretty nice people but it does likely have a higher percentage of jerks than most places.
In Minnesota about 1 in 100 drivers are jerks (and maybe another 30 are oblivious). This applies outside of cars as well I think. In Florida it's maybe 2 out of 100. In New York it's probably 4 out of 100 (two of whom are cab drivers). It's sad that these so very few have such as huge negative impact on so many.
This can be seen with loud talking as well. I spend a lot of time in one or another café, like two or so hours every morning. Invariably a group of two or three people or one idiot with a cell phone will come in talking really loud. Until they arrived the noise level of the 50 or 80 people will have been fairly low and will return to fairly low after they leave. Or after someone, which is becoming increasingly common, tells them to pipe down. A tiny few making life less pleasant for many.
In Minnesota about 1 in 100 drivers are jerks (and maybe another 30 are oblivious). This applies outside of cars as well I think. In Florida it's maybe 2 out of 100. In New York it's probably 4 out of 100 (two of whom are cab drivers). It's sad that these so very few have such as huge negative impact on so many.
This can be seen with loud talking as well. I spend a lot of time in one or another café, like two or so hours every morning. Invariably a group of two or three people or one idiot with a cell phone will come in talking really loud. Until they arrived the noise level of the 50 or 80 people will have been fairly low and will return to fairly low after they leave. Or after someone, which is becoming increasingly common, tells them to pipe down. A tiny few making life less pleasant for many.
09-29-15 | 07:30 AM
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I find the majority of New Yorkers to be pretty nice people but it does likely have a higher percentage of jerks than most places.
In Minnesota about 1 in 100 drivers are jerks (and maybe another 30 are oblivious). This applies outside of cars as well I think. In Florida it's maybe 2 out of 100. In New York it's probably 4 out of 100 (two of whom are cab drivers). It's sad that these so very few have such as huge negative impact on so many.
This can be seen with loud talking as well. I spend a lot of time in one or another café, like two or so hours every morning. Invariably a group of two or three people or one idiot with a cell phone will come in talking really loud. Until they arrived the noise level of the 50 or 80 people will have been fairly low and will return to fairly low after they leave. Or after someone, which is becoming increasingly common, tells them to pipe down. A tiny few making life less pleasant for many.
In Minnesota about 1 in 100 drivers are jerks (and maybe another 30 are oblivious). This applies outside of cars as well I think. In Florida it's maybe 2 out of 100. In New York it's probably 4 out of 100 (two of whom are cab drivers). It's sad that these so very few have such as huge negative impact on so many.
This can be seen with loud talking as well. I spend a lot of time in one or another café, like two or so hours every morning. Invariably a group of two or three people or one idiot with a cell phone will come in talking really loud. Until they arrived the noise level of the 50 or 80 people will have been fairly low and will return to fairly low after they leave. Or after someone, which is becoming increasingly common, tells them to pipe down. A tiny few making life less pleasant for many.
09-29-15 | 07:50 AM
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They're just mouthier. There's a famous New Yorker cartoon where the guy from New York is saying "F*** you", but in the thought bubble above his head you can see he really means "Have a nice day"; and the guy from LA is saying "Have a nice day", but he really means "F*** you".
09-29-15 | 08:06 AM
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I find the majority of New Yorkers to be pretty nice people but it does likely have a higher percentage of jerks than most places.
In Minnesota about 1 in 100 drivers are jerks (and maybe another 30 are oblivious). This applies outside of cars as well I think. In Florida it's maybe 2 out of 100. In New York it's probably 4 out of 100 (two of whom are cab drivers). It's sad that these so very few have such as huge negative impact on so many.
This can be seen with loud talking as well. I spend a lot of time in one or another café, like two or so hours every morning. Invariably a group of two or three people or one idiot with a cell phone will come in talking really loud. Until they arrived the noise level of the 50 or 80 people will have been fairly low and will return to fairly low after they leave. Or after someone, which is becoming increasingly common, tells them to pipe down. A tiny few making life less pleasant for many.
In Minnesota about 1 in 100 drivers are jerks (and maybe another 30 are oblivious). This applies outside of cars as well I think. In Florida it's maybe 2 out of 100. In New York it's probably 4 out of 100 (two of whom are cab drivers). It's sad that these so very few have such as huge negative impact on so many.
This can be seen with loud talking as well. I spend a lot of time in one or another café, like two or so hours every morning. Invariably a group of two or three people or one idiot with a cell phone will come in talking really loud. Until they arrived the noise level of the 50 or 80 people will have been fairly low and will return to fairly low after they leave. Or after someone, which is becoming increasingly common, tells them to pipe down. A tiny few making life less pleasant for many.
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