700x32 to 700x35 ride differences?
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700x32 to 700x35 ride differences?
I seem to have run myself into a bit of a conundrum. I bought the new schwalbe road cruiser green compound tires for my district, which is entirely used to ride on pavement and sidewalk (no place to ride on road surface on bell road unless I wish for death) and they seem to be flatting fairly frequently, as in once or more a week. I would like to move to a tire with more flat protection but schwalbe doesn't make anything in 32mm with a decent guard rating outside of the marathon plus. Thinking of moving to the marathon GT because this bike almost never sees off road but the smallest it comes in is 35mm. Would I lose much in the way of How nimble my bike feels moving up 3mm? They will still fit under my fenders, I have a good quarter inch at the lowest point.
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I suspect the extra tire material for flat protection will affect road feel more than the move from 32 to 35mm although you will be able to run 35s at lower pressure which can compensate for some of that.
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A 3mm bump on a 15 lb racing bike would be felt. A 3mm bump on a steel frame bike with fenders will be virtually undetectable. I went from 32 to 35 Marathon Supremes on my steel bike. Heck, they don't even look wider.
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The difference in tire construction will affect the ride more than the difference in width. Weekly flats are insane. I don't know how you tolerate that. My suggestion is to invest in the Marathon plusses. Have them on my commuting bike and haven't flatted in over a year (3,000 + miles).
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The difference in tire construction will affect the ride more than the difference in width. Weekly flats are insane. I don't know how you tolerate that. My suggestion is to invest in the Marathon plusses. Have them on my commuting bike and haven't flatted in over a year (3,000 + miles).
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Tire construction makes a big difference. I hardly spend any time on tires smaller than 38mm these days, and I'm loving it.
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I have to admit, despite the vaya being 38lb of bike, when I put the GT Tour 38s on it really changed the entire ride. Feels faster and more nimble than when it had the stock WTB Nano 700x40 tires
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Two rather general comments. 1st, a flat a week? What's causing them? If it is one thing over and over again, addressing that specific cause might work much better than just putting a tire on with enough armor to stop everything (and probably leave you with much better riding rubber).
2nd, 3mm is peanuts. Yes, you can feel it but after a mile or two, you forget IF you are comparing different sizes of the same tire. Different tires, even the same size, can be VERY different.
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2nd, 3mm is peanuts. Yes, you can feel it but after a mile or two, you forget IF you are comparing different sizes of the same tire. Different tires, even the same size, can be VERY different.
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Two rather general comments. 1st, a flat a week? What's causing them? If it is one thing over and over again, addressing that specific cause might work much better than just putting a tire on with enough armor to stop everything (and probably leave you with much better riding rubber).
2nd, 3mm is peanuts. Yes, you can feel it but after a mile or two, you forget IF you are comparing different sizes of the same tire. Different tires, even the same size, can be VERY different.
Ben
2nd, 3mm is peanuts. Yes, you can feel it but after a mile or two, you forget IF you are comparing different sizes of the same tire. Different tires, even the same size, can be VERY different.
Ben
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No, 3mm isn't something you feel. You will feel it if one tire is light and supple and one is heavier with stiffer sidewalls. Quality/construction of tire make a bigger difference than 3mm in size. I have tires sizes from 23 -60 mm in 2-3mm size increments. Even racing, 2-3mm is nothing noticeable.
I went tubless for my commuting bike - no more flats. Pinch flats are impossible and puncture flats are immediately sealed.
I went tubless for my commuting bike - no more flats. Pinch flats are impossible and puncture flats are immediately sealed.
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Pick up some Stans or other tubeless MTB sealant, get tubes with removable cores, and put sealant in your tubes. A goathead can be plucked out and reseal from sealant with a couple revs. AND I've seen advice, don't even bother plucking them out. Just let them stay in there and sealant do its work. A really big obnoxious one clip it off maybe but leave the thorn in?
OR get some Mr Tuffy or other tire liners and use whatever tires you want.
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You could try tubes with sealant (either pre-filled or added to tubes with removable valve cores). I don't encounter goat heads often enough to know how well that would work. If not, I think you're going to need slow and heavy tires.
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This is important information. The majority of punctures I get are from glass or bits of metal. Many nice rolling tires will resist that kind of thing. Goat heads are a different level. They are the reason that tires like the Marathon Plus exist.
You could try tubes with sealant (either pre-filled or added to tubes with removable valve cores). I don't encounter goat heads often enough to know how well that would work. If not, I think you're going to need slow and heavy tires.
You could try tubes with sealant (either pre-filled or added to tubes with removable valve cores). I don't encounter goat heads often enough to know how well that would work. If not, I think you're going to need slow and heavy tires.
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