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Old 04-17-07 | 02:38 AM
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Yesterday afternoon on my way home, I was the victim of road rage for the first time. A cyclist screamed at me that I was "a stuped b***h, get off the road and stop waving my hands around". I might add that I was signalling for a right turn. I expected this from car drivers, but not another cyclist. He shouted this while zipping past on my right (in ireland, traffic stays to he left) giving me a real fright. I was so upset that I couldn't focus for the rest of the way home, when I was shouted at again. This time a motorist yelled at me to get out of the middle of the road. I was in the middle but I had to take the lane, there was no room to share.

I didn't cycle to work today, and I know I should just get on my bike again, but I'm still a bit spooked. How do I get over this? How did you all react the first time this happened to you?
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Old 04-17-07 | 03:02 AM
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Yesterday afternoon on my way home, I was the victim of road rage for the first time. A cyclist screamed at me that I was "a stuped b***h, get off the road and stop waving my hands around". I might add that I was signalling for a right turn. I expected this from car drivers, but not another cyclist. He shouted this while zipping past on my right (in ireland, traffic stays to he left) giving me a real fright. I was so upset that I couldn't focus for the rest of the way home, when I was shouted at again. This time a motorist yelled at me to get out of the middle of the road. I was in the middle but I had to take the lane, there was no room to share.

I didn't cycle to work today, and I know I should just get on my bike again, but I'm still a bit spooked. How do I get over this? How did you all react the first time this happened to you?
Usually i'm the yellER not the yellEE, but i have been spooked too. By cagers, mostly. The cliche says to get back on the bike as soon as you can. Even sooner.
I say, think of all the fun and good moments you've had commuting, think of how miserable these people are trapped in their metal cages, standing in traffic, and go for a ride, preferably not at peak hours.

Also, get an airhorn, like the Delta Airzound. Serves as a honking-stress-relief device very well. :-)
Visualize that the button is actually located on the stick of a jet fighter, and that each push of it launches rockets at the idiot that you're angry with. Works great for me.

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Old 04-17-07 | 06:15 AM
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You should have turned your signal hand into a single finger.... I use to get upset by this stuff but now I just don't give a crap about anything anyone has to say anymore. If they feel they need to say anything, be it by their foul mouth or their foul horn, I simply assume they are complete idiots and will probably meet up with a tree shortly. I quickly forget about the obscene intrution into my mind and go about my business.
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Old 04-17-07 | 06:24 AM
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Smile and wave. Kill them with kindness. Works every time for me. Don't let this isolated incident keep you from riding. There are always going to be uninformed and ignorant people out there trying to bring you down. This weekend I had a conversation with a rather large person who thought I was crazy to be riding on the roads. She said I would be safer staying in my cul-de-sac and riding. I told her I was riding to and from work so I didn't think that was going to work very well...
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Old 04-17-07 | 06:37 AM
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Sounds like you may have cut the cyclist off when you moved over for your right hand turn, which could explain his road-rage.

But basically what Fidel said, just get back to riding ASAP and remeber all the fun times.
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Originally Posted by cyclechickirl
Hi all,

Yesterday afternoon on my way home, I was the victim of road rage for the first time. A cyclist screamed at me that I was "a stuped b***h, get off the road and stop waving my hands around". I might add that I was signalling for a right turn. I expected this from car drivers, but not another cyclist. He shouted this while zipping past on my right (in ireland, traffic stays to he left) giving me a real fright. I was so upset that I couldn't focus for the rest of the way home, when I was shouted at again. This time a motorist yelled at me to get out of the middle of the road. I was in the middle but I had to take the lane, there was no room to share.

I didn't cycle to work today, and I know I should just get on my bike again, but I'm still a bit spooked. How do I get over this? How did you all react the first time this happened to you?
You get over it by becoming exactly what that POS called you - a b*tch. They don't respect you anyway right? So f*** 'em.

p.s. sorry you got so unnerved, that's gotta suck. Bad enough you have to deal with JAMs, but a woman-hating fellow cyclist, jeebus. If he does that again just push him over as he passes you. What an ass.
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Old 04-17-07 | 07:43 AM
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Best approach is to have a thick skin. Just ignore them. That's what I aspire to. Easier said than done. I think you are starting from a better mental position than many of us in that regard. I think it's easier to conquer fear than it is to curb hostile feelings.

I am resolved to never fly the bird from a bicycle again. Passive aggressive is my cycling motto. Assert my rights. Don't retaliate if fouled.
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Old 04-17-07 | 08:36 AM
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Next time...

If the guy is looking at you, just smile. If not, just laugh loudly enough for him to hear.
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Old 04-17-07 | 09:03 AM
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Old 04-17-07 | 10:54 AM
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look you know that your not what ever someone yells at you. So why let it get to you. Just keep on riding.
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Old 04-17-07 | 11:01 AM
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The abuse of morons is like water on the back of a duck.

I smile and wave, regardless of the type of vehicle the moron is driving.
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Old 04-17-07 | 02:04 PM
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I hate that sick-in-the-pit-of-my-stomach feeling I get when someone yells at me. The most recent was some guy in a pickup who had to yell "Get the F*&( out of the way" at me when I delayed his right turn at a stop light by 2 seconds.

I've also had cagers loudly comment on the size of my a$$.

I really don't do anything when that happens, other than turn red and grumble about all the jerks in the world. I think I will try the smile and wave next time though, that seems like a more productive reaction.
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Old 04-17-07 | 03:52 PM
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Old 04-17-07 | 05:23 PM
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No worries darlin. Some days you get the bull, some days you get the horn. Just keep smiling, take it in stride and keep doing exactly what you are doing. When stuff like this happens, give yourself a giggle knowing that by not letting them see they are getting under your skin, you are ticking them off even more.
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I didn't cycle to work today, and I know I should just get on my bike again, but I'm still a bit spooked. How do I get over this? How did you all react the first time this happened to you?
"Don't let the bastards get you down"
- Kris Kristofferson to Sinead O'Connor at the Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary tribute concert in Madison Square Garden.

I don't usually have that problem, (probably due to the fact that I'm not exactly a small guy). Of course (this is kinda related but not really - for the humor of it) I did have one spandex **** on a fancy new road bike blow by my girlfriend and I on a rail-trail without as much as an "on your left" he was rather surprised when I easily caught him on my commuter and proceded to chew him a new a-hole about trail etiquette without breathing hard. On the road I yell back.

Ride the bike tomorrow and don't let the bastards get you down.
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Old 04-17-07 | 06:35 PM
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Blow 'em a kiss. I've slacked-off lately and instead given the finger and a piece of my mind if the driver looked none too threatening. I know, stupid but this sort of stuff is a daily thing here in NYC, minus the obviously disturbed cyclist, and frustration sometimes wins over intelligence.
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Old 04-18-07 | 08:15 AM
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The first time or two I got yelled at I got that sick feeling. the next few times I got mad, now I really just don't give a wank.

they're stressing out to the point of getting mad enough to yell...all those glucocorticoids released will no doubt lead them to gain an extra pound or lose some sleep..their loss.
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Old 04-23-07 | 07:14 AM
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OMG thanks!

OMG thank you all for your support, I hoped for one response, but this is amazing! And I did get back on the bike, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, with no hassle. I cycled throught the park, and eventually made my way onto The Road where I was shouted at. Glad I got back on the bike, at weightwatchers this week, I lost 6 lbs. I'm sure the bike has something to do with it!

Thank you all so much, this is pretty amazing!
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Old 04-23-07 | 07:28 AM
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If getting shouted and cursed at is road rage ... well then, you should avoid biking in NYC streets.
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Old 04-23-07 | 07:48 AM
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Old 04-23-07 | 07:51 AM
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I'm glad you're back with it. I do the "smile and wave like a fool" thing, and it always perplexes them.
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Old 04-23-07 | 07:54 AM
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If getting shouted and cursed at is road rage ... well then, you should avoid biking in NYC streets.
The OP's in Dublin, Ireland.

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Old 04-23-07 | 08:41 AM
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The OP's in Dublin, Ireland.
I think he was being facetious. Or, who knows, she can probably swim .

I'm with the "smile & wave" crowd. For one thing, every once in a rare while the person honking/yelling is doing so because it's someone you know, and it's embarrassing to accidentally flip off your friend .

But also, being rude / cursing back can, BEST case, result in them going off even more pissed. It can go pretty far downhill from there. So tempting as it is I try to avoid rude gestures (not always successfully).
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Old 04-23-07 | 09:13 AM
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Like raiyn said, I'm not a small individual... 6' 220#. I just love it when someone says something untoward to one of my friends.... I just step in the way and smile... They usualy apologize... It tends to help when not only are you a Marine, but you look like one!

Keep at it... Remember... it take more muscles to smile, than to extend the bird!

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I think he was being facetious. Or, who knows, she can probably swim .
I think so, too . I don't think she was prepared for uncivility in Ireland, though. Brooklyn's another story!

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