loss of tread slowing me down?
#1
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 312
Likes: 1
From: Columbus, Ohio
Bikes: All City Nature Boy, Salsa Ti Fargo, Kona Electric Ute
loss of tread slowing me down?
I ride a Surly Pugsley to work everyday and Ive noticed that my pace has been getting slower over the past few weeks especially. Ive also noticed that my rear tire is getting really worn down and will need replaced soon. Could this cause my pace to slow or am I just getting slower in my old age? I was hoping that the tire would last for another couple months, but Im putting more miles on it than I thought. I average about 120 miles a week on it, so I dont think its conditioning.
#2
Senior Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,676
Likes: 2,642
From: CID
Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)
If anything, the tire should be getting "faster" due to becoming smoother.
#4
Descends like a rock
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,034
Likes: 16
From: Fort Worth, TX
Bikes: Scott Foil, Surly Pacer
No, I don't think that is slowing you down. The weight of those tires might be though
When my commutes get slower, it usually has to do with changing weather patterns and headwind.
When my commutes get slower, it usually has to do with changing weather patterns and headwind.
#5
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 312
Likes: 1
From: Columbus, Ohio
Bikes: All City Nature Boy, Salsa Ti Fargo, Kona Electric Ute
Yes I have, thats why I was hoping they will last till winter
It weighs less than my cargo bike. Im hoping the colder mornings are the issue, I dont notice it as much on the way home
#7
ride for a change
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,221
Likes: 2
From: Minneapolis, MN
Bikes: Surly Cross-check & Moonlander, Pivot Mach 429, Ted Wojcik Sof-Trac, Ridley Orion. Santa Cruz Stigmata
If you are year round on the asphalt with the pugs might I suggest a set of Black Floyd's for the summer and switch to Nates or Larry's for the winter. OR with the pugs you can throw a set of 29er wheels on it and run slicks.
Yeah I know, you are not made of money. Just a suggestion.
and to answer your original question. Seem logical that less tread ought to speed you up. What pressure's are you running?
Yeah I know, you are not made of money. Just a suggestion.
and to answer your original question. Seem logical that less tread ought to speed you up. What pressure's are you running?
#8
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
From: Allston, MA
Bikes: Trek 720 (touring, 1981 (?) model); Trek 7.3
The more the tyre wears, the flatter it becomes and the more surface area is in contact with the road, and so there is more rolling resistance.
That being said, there's no such thing as sustained athletic peak performance. Any decent competitive athlete understands that you can't maintain peak conditioning forever, and athletic training for everything from running to fencing is designed to ramp up to a competition. I'd say the OP needs to take it a bit easier every once in a while, and that such fatigue is part of the natural cadence of exercise.
That being said, there's no such thing as sustained athletic peak performance. Any decent competitive athlete understands that you can't maintain peak conditioning forever, and athletic training for everything from running to fencing is designed to ramp up to a competition. I'd say the OP needs to take it a bit easier every once in a while, and that such fatigue is part of the natural cadence of exercise.
#9
Banned
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 8,543
Likes: 41
From: England / CPH
Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
i wonder whether you are increasing the size of the contact patch with the road as the tires wear and effectively making it a wider tires. i can't help any more than that without seeing an actual photo.
you could roll the front and rear tire through some mustard and over some white paper to "see" the contact patch. here, i'm assuming the rear tire is more worn and that you'll see the difference. you'll have to "ride" the bike to keep appropriate pressure on the tire.
good luck.
edit: damn, beaten by a minute. i still like my mustard idea.
you could roll the front and rear tire through some mustard and over some white paper to "see" the contact patch. here, i'm assuming the rear tire is more worn and that you'll see the difference. you'll have to "ride" the bike to keep appropriate pressure on the tire.
good luck.
edit: damn, beaten by a minute. i still like my mustard idea.
#10
Senior Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,676
Likes: 2,642
From: CID
Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)
That being said, there's no such thing as sustained athletic peak performance. Any decent competitive athlete understands that you can't maintain peak conditioning forever, and athletic training for everything from running to fencing is designed to ramp up to a competition. I'd say the OP needs to take it a bit easier every once in a while, and that such fatigue is part of the natural cadence of exercise.
#11
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 2
From: Colorado Springs
Bikes: Borealis Echo, Ground Up Designs Ti Cross bike, Xtracycle, GT mod trials bike, pixie race machine
If anything the tire would be getting faster but more likely to pick up glass or thorns.
If you are riding every day and never taking time off the bike there is a good chance you are not allowing your body a chance to recover. Generally when all other things are equal but you are getting slower you need to take a couple days off to let your body heal itself from the constant work it is doing.
If you are riding every day and never taking time off the bike there is a good chance you are not allowing your body a chance to recover. Generally when all other things are equal but you are getting slower you need to take a couple days off to let your body heal itself from the constant work it is doing.
#12
Prefers Cicero

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,860
Likes: 146
From: Toronto
Bikes: 1984 Trek 520; 2007 Bike Friday NWT; misc others
I ride a Surly Pugsley to work everyday and Ive noticed that my pace has been getting slower over the past few weeks especially. Ive also noticed that my rear tire is getting really worn down and will need replaced soon. Could this cause my pace to slow or am I just getting slower in my old age? I was hoping that the tire would last for another couple months, but Im putting more miles on it than I thought. I average about 120 miles a week on it, so I dont think its conditioning.
#14
Senior Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 679
Likes: 1
From: Calgary, Alberta
My first thoughts when things slow down is the tire pressure. I suppose that must be obvious, or could that be the problem?
Or it could be just fatigue. It's easy to take on too much with work and a commute too. Sometimes after a couple of days without much physical stuff happening, I'm noticeably stronger when I get back on the bike.
Or it could be just fatigue. It's easy to take on too much with work and a commute too. Sometimes after a couple of days without much physical stuff happening, I'm noticeably stronger when I get back on the bike.
#15
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 312
Likes: 1
From: Columbus, Ohio
Bikes: All City Nature Boy, Salsa Ti Fargo, Kona Electric Ute
If you are riding every day and never taking time off the bike there is a good chance you are not allowing your body a chance to recover. Generally when all other things are equal but you are getting slower you need to take a couple days off to let your body heal itself from the constant work it is doing.
#17
Senior Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,676
Likes: 2,642
From: CID
Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)
#19
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 312
Likes: 1
From: Columbus, Ohio
Bikes: All City Nature Boy, Salsa Ti Fargo, Kona Electric Ute
That was my second check, first being the air pressure. It must have just been me, as much as I would like to find another reason. Today, I was back up to speed on the ride in to work
#20
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 11,373
Likes: 8
From: Columbus, OH
Bikes: '08 Surly Cross-Check, 2011 Redline Conquest Pro, 2012 Spesh FSR Comp EVO, 2015 Trek Domane 6.2 disc
Did the Pug have the option for rim brakes? I thought it was a disc-only frame.
__________________
"I feel like my world was classier before I found cyclocross."
- Mandi M.
"I feel like my world was classier before I found cyclocross."
- Mandi M.
#22
Senior Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,676
Likes: 2,642
From: CID
Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)
Yeah, brakes contacting the rim on a Pugsley would be a *definite* problem.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bikenh
Long Distance Competition/Ultracycling, Randonneuring and Endurance Cycling
28
04-06-15 09:59 PM




Over What or Whom?

