You know you're old when.....
05-04-16 | 09:29 AM
#201
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05-04-16 | 12:46 PM
#202
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From: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
Please let me know how that works out. I've decided to consult a few different experts. I hope I can find a sports doctor who knows cycling.
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Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
05-04-16 | 01:05 PM
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I was going to post a comment about having my Dad's slide rule, then I realized I already had - about 7 weeks ago, back on Page 5. A sure sign?
05-04-16 | 11:05 PM
#205
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From: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Yes, and you're REALLY old if you still insist on shaving with a blade, the same way you did all your life.
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An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
05-05-16 | 12:40 AM
#206
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You know you are old when your kids music sounds like trash, both political parties seem unhinged and the direction of the world no long makes sense.
05-05-16 | 09:27 AM
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Well, my (grown) kids have mentioned to me that the music I heard on the radio in high school and college is better than what they grew up with. But what if your other two points are actually correct?
05-05-16 | 08:26 PM
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You know you're old when you remember wood bicycle rims and nailing tires or shoe cleats.
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05-05-16 | 11:01 PM
#209
One sign I haven't hit yet. Several years ago, one of my uncles died. My mom was one of 8 kids, and so there were 14 uncles and aunts. And this was about the oldest uncle. But what was weird was that NONE of the other uncles or aunts made it to the funeral. I always associated going to lots of funerals with being old, that's what my grandparents did. But, no, being "old" is when you're too old to go to funerals.
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"be careful this rando stuff is addictive and dan's the 'pusher'."
05-06-16 | 02:12 PM
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05-07-16 | 12:50 PM
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Hank Aaron was the home run king. He did it on a small salary and no drugs and I was watching the historic number 715 as a 12 year old. Then they all started doping and the only thing is cycling was already used to it. Now it does not make a difference I don't follow baseball and doping would not help my cycling. The best medicine is a beer and pizza to ride tomorrow.
05-07-16 | 05:05 PM
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I use my HP 11c calculator almost everyday. I bought it in 1974 (I think?) and it still works just fine.
The engineering dept. at Hughes Ordnance Div. (1967-69) was awash with electro-mechanical calculators (Friden I believe), engineers were also draftsmen and some wore their 'slip-sticks' in holsters. Fun! ;o)
Joe
The engineering dept. at Hughes Ordnance Div. (1967-69) was awash with electro-mechanical calculators (Friden I believe), engineers were also draftsmen and some wore their 'slip-sticks' in holsters. Fun! ;o)
Joe
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05-07-16 | 06:32 PM
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Back in '76 when I was heading off to my freshman year at Ohio State, I bought a National Semiconductor 4640 RPN scientific calculator.
(Cycling-related content) One of my dorm -mates had the HP-65 that read plastic strips to program. An EE major, he used that calculator to design/build/program a set of digital clocks for the OSU indoor roller-racing crit riding. They used a rubber wheel that rode against the bike roller, measuring speed. I remember him buying IC 'chips' that came in greenish translucent hard plastic tubes.
His roller 'clocks' had a problem with the static electricity generated by some rider's tubular tires (silk cords maybe?) on the plastic roller drums... You'd hear a ZAP! from the spark jumping 3-4". Not sure how he overcame that
(Cycling-related content) One of my dorm -mates had the HP-65 that read plastic strips to program. An EE major, he used that calculator to design/build/program a set of digital clocks for the OSU indoor roller-racing crit riding. They used a rubber wheel that rode against the bike roller, measuring speed. I remember him buying IC 'chips' that came in greenish translucent hard plastic tubes.
His roller 'clocks' had a problem with the static electricity generated by some rider's tubular tires (silk cords maybe?) on the plastic roller drums... You'd hear a ZAP! from the spark jumping 3-4". Not sure how he overcame that
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'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
05-07-16 | 07:28 PM
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You know you're old when both kids have finished college and have moved away from home. When my wife and I have moved from the suburban home to the lakefront “cottage”. When I don't work anymore but because my wife is younger and enjoys what she does still chooses to. When spring happens in west central Michigan and I get the lawn and flower beds in shape..paint some window trim..and then get out on the bicycle. I ride slowly up some hills...coast fabulously down other hills...look at the farm fields ready for planting....the small inland lakes all crystal blue in the spring sun....get chased by dogs and outrace them....ride another 10 or 20 miles because I have time. I'm not the young kid I was racing around Detroit anymore and I know I'm getting old but because I can ride everything is fresh and clean and new again......and I feel young!
05-07-16 | 08:07 PM
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You know you're old when both kids have finished college and have moved away from home. When my wife and I have moved from the suburban home to the lakefront “cottage”. When I don't work anymore but because my wife is younger and enjoys what she does still chooses to. When spring happens in west central Michigan and I get the lawn and flower beds in shape..paint some window trim..and then get out on the bicycle. I ride slowly up some hills...coast fabulously down other hills...look at the farm fields ready for planting....the small inland lakes all crystal blue in the spring sun....get chased by dogs and outrace them....ride another 10 or 20 miles because I have time. I'm not the young kid I was racing around Detroit anymore and I know I'm getting old but because I can ride everything is fresh and clean and new again......and I feel young!
05-07-16 | 08:16 PM
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From: Ann Arbor, MI
Bikes: 1980 Masi, 1984 Mondonico, 1984 Trek 610, 1980 Woodrup Giro, 2005 Mondonico Futura Leggera ELOS, 1967 PX10E, 1971 Peugeot UO-8
Many things point to my being "old.” (I'm 74+):
First bike was an old Schwinn, in 1949.
Went to the El Camino College parking lot on Sundays to fly U-Control model airplanes, 1953/4.
I listened when Sputnik was announced on the radio; did the math and presented the orbital elements (assuming a circular orbit) to my physics class the following Monday.
Minimum wage in New Mexico in '58 was $.50/hr, gas cost $.23/gal for the good stuff.
I remember the first Burger King in Alamogordo NM which served freshly-grilled “Whoppers” for $.14 plain or $.19 with cheese (1959)
Waitresses at the local drive-in put trays on our windows while wearing roller skates, short pleated skirts and long bare legs -- can't remember much about the burgers ;o)
Bought one of the first Transistor radios with seven actual transistors (1958).
1958: I watched while B58 "Hustlers" made practice hydrogen bomb runs on Holloman AFB. They would come from the AFB at Albuquerque, at 60,000 feet and 1,600 mph or so. F106 "Delta Dart" fighters would try to intercept the Hustlers as soon as they came on the radar ---- None of the B58s were ever 'shot down' before they 'dropped' their bomb. It was sobering, very sobering.
I remember when Elvis, Harry Bellefonte, Mickey & Silvia were popular and when Buddy Holly died. Also when James Dean died. Dean and Holly died because they were young and stupid but I still miss them.
All but one of my (few) girlfriends were virgins ;o)
My first road racing bike was an Olmo with all Campy gear.
The list could go on ----
Joe
Oh Yeah: I still have my K&E slide rule; bambo wood,etc..
First bike was an old Schwinn, in 1949.
Went to the El Camino College parking lot on Sundays to fly U-Control model airplanes, 1953/4.
I listened when Sputnik was announced on the radio; did the math and presented the orbital elements (assuming a circular orbit) to my physics class the following Monday.
Minimum wage in New Mexico in '58 was $.50/hr, gas cost $.23/gal for the good stuff.
I remember the first Burger King in Alamogordo NM which served freshly-grilled “Whoppers” for $.14 plain or $.19 with cheese (1959)
Waitresses at the local drive-in put trays on our windows while wearing roller skates, short pleated skirts and long bare legs -- can't remember much about the burgers ;o)
Bought one of the first Transistor radios with seven actual transistors (1958).
1958: I watched while B58 "Hustlers" made practice hydrogen bomb runs on Holloman AFB. They would come from the AFB at Albuquerque, at 60,000 feet and 1,600 mph or so. F106 "Delta Dart" fighters would try to intercept the Hustlers as soon as they came on the radar ---- None of the B58s were ever 'shot down' before they 'dropped' their bomb. It was sobering, very sobering.
I remember when Elvis, Harry Bellefonte, Mickey & Silvia were popular and when Buddy Holly died. Also when James Dean died. Dean and Holly died because they were young and stupid but I still miss them.
All but one of my (few) girlfriends were virgins ;o)
My first road racing bike was an Olmo with all Campy gear.
The list could go on ----
Joe
Oh Yeah: I still have my K&E slide rule; bambo wood,etc..
I still use them - gearing calculations, trail calculations.
05-07-16 | 08:19 PM
#218
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You know how to set the dwell, adjust the valves and tune a carburetor.
When you still listen to music on a turntable.
When LSD was legal.
When you still listen to music on a turntable.
When LSD was legal.
05-07-16 | 08:23 PM
#219
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05-08-16 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by StephenH 
...... But, no, being "old" is when you're too old to go to funerals.
Being 'Old' is when you realize that the funerals you go to are for people much younger than yourself.
05-08-16 | 07:32 PM
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From: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
This is partly about getting old, but more about being around bikes too long.
I woke up the other morning, and my left hand wasn't working right. The main issue was a thumb that clicked and snapped into position with some pain as I flexed it back and forth. So, never having encountered this before my immediate reaction was, "Hmmm!, Index thumb,......"
I might add that the internet was useless for a search under index thumb, but I did track it down eventually, and apparently it's not rare, and hopefully will resolve if I can manage to stop using my left hand so much. I can't wait to get it back into friction mode.
I woke up the other morning, and my left hand wasn't working right. The main issue was a thumb that clicked and snapped into position with some pain as I flexed it back and forth. So, never having encountered this before my immediate reaction was, "Hmmm!, Index thumb,......"
I might add that the internet was useless for a search under index thumb, but I did track it down eventually, and apparently it's not rare, and hopefully will resolve if I can manage to stop using my left hand so much. I can't wait to get it back into friction mode.
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An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
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An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
05-09-16 | 08:04 AM
#223
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I had a similar thing happen a few years ago. I was using a screwdriver and couldn't open my hand to let go of it! I had had similar things happen many years ago when I was at Trek, but was always able to get my hand open again. I attributed it to using a Dynafile for several hours a day. This time it wouldn't open no matter how much I tried, so I got a referral to a hand doctor. He put my hand on the table and told me "this is going to hurt." Then he whacked my hand hard to flatten it against the table to force it open. Boy, Howdee! It did hurt! Then he injected the joint with cortisone and it was fine after that. Now I do have significant arthritis in that joint with some deformity and chronic pain. But at least the joint is working.
05-09-16 | 06:05 PM
#224
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