Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Help on shifters

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-24-16 | 10:54 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Help on shifters

Hi y'all I'm new to the the form! I tried to Look it up but can't find anything! Will Sram 3V Road Bike Bar End Shifter fit 10 speed on a 21 speed bike? Thanks
Bogeymc6 is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 11:06 AM
  #2  
Retro Grouch's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 30,225
Likes: 649
From: St Peters, Missouri

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

I'm not sure what, exactly, you are asking but index shifters have to match the number of rear cogs. A 21 speed bike has 7 rear cogs so no.
__________________
My greatest fear is all of my kids standing around my coffin and talking about "how sensible" dad was.
Retro Grouch is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 11:11 AM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
They say they are 10 speed shifters but I have a 21 speed bike just wanted to know if they will work or not! Thanks
Bogeymc6 is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 11:13 AM
  #4  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
What about theses Shimano Dura Ace SL-BS79 Road Bike Bar End Shifter Set 2x10 Speed TT Time Trial
Bogeymc6 is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 11:27 AM
  #5  
Retro Grouch's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 30,225
Likes: 649
From: St Peters, Missouri

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

Assuming those shifters have a friction function, set them on that and they'll work. You'll just have to sense when the chain moves to the next gear. There are a number of riders who prefer friction to indexed click shifting systems. My personal bikes are half and half.

10-speed shifters won't index with 7 rear cogs because the 7-speed cogs are spaced farther apart than 10-speed cogs are. Consequently, 7-speed required more cable pull to "click" into place.
__________________
My greatest fear is all of my kids standing around my coffin and talking about "how sensible" dad was.
Retro Grouch is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 12:11 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,811
Likes: 0
From: Northern Nevada
Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
Assuming those shifters have a friction function, set them on that and they'll work. You'll just have to sense when the chain moves to the next gear. There are a number of riders who prefer friction to indexed click shifting systems....
This. All my bikes but one are friction, because that's what I learned on and it's not worth the trouble and expense of switching. The difficulty of shifting a non-indexed driveline has been WAY overestimated.
Velo Dog is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 12:15 PM
  #7  
dksix's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,616
Likes: 4
From: North East Tennessee

Bikes: Basso Luguna, Fuji Nevada

A 21 speed bike is likely a 3x7 setup (3 chain rings on the crankset and 7 cogs/sprockets on the cassette). The shifters you ask about as 2x10 are designed to work with gearsets of 2 front chainrings and 10 cogs/sprockets on the cassette. If you are trying to replace the shifters on the 21 speed bike it would be best to find a shifter set designed to match the number of chainrings and sprockets you have, likely 3x7.
dksix is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 12:26 PM
  #8  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Yea it's a 3x7 set up! It has a shimano revo twist shifters on it right now

Last edited by Bogeymc6; 01-24-16 at 12:29 PM.
Bogeymc6 is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 12:57 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 506
Likes: 42
Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
Assuming those shifters have a friction function, set them on that and they'll work. You'll just have to sense when the chain moves to the next gear. There are a number of riders who prefer friction to indexed click shifting systems. My personal bikes are half and half.

10-speed shifters won't index with 7 rear cogs because the 7-speed cogs are spaced farther apart than 10-speed cogs are. Consequently, 7-speed required more cable pull to "click" into place.

I beleive the newer dura ace bar ends are indexed only...so they probably wouldn't work with a 7 speed rear end.
wheelsmcgee is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 01:11 PM
  #10  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Maybe I'll just get theses they will work right Shimano EF-51 Shifter/Brake Lever Combo (3 x 7 Speed)
Bogeymc6 is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 02:59 PM
  #11  
George Krpan
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,708
Likes: 1
From: Westlake Village, California
Originally Posted by Bogeymc6
Maybe I'll just get theses they will work right Shimano EF-51 Shifter/Brake Lever Combo (3 x 7 Speed)
Those should work. They are for a straight bar, not for a drop bar.
GeoKrpan is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 03:28 PM
  #12  
dedhed's Avatar
SE Wis
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 11,549
Likes: 4,329
From: Milwaukee, WI

Bikes: '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400, 2013 Novara Randonee, 1990 Trek 970

Those are 10s indexed only rear and friction front. FWIW they will shift a triple in front - they came standard on my 2014 Novarra Radonee touring bike with a Shimano LX triple front. Will not work with the rear of your 3 x 7 drivetrain
dedhed is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 03:30 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 4,628
Likes: 943
From: Ontario, Canada

Bikes: iele Latina, Miele Suprema, Miele Uno LS, Miele Miele Beta, MMTB, Bianchi Model Unknown, Fiori Venezia, Fiori Napoli, VeloSport Adamas AX

Do you have a straight handlebar or a drop bar?

Also, your bike doesn't happen to have a weird 3 pieces drop handlebar?

Canadian Tire used to sell a road-bike that had a 3-pieces handlebar and used Revo shifters. That's why I ask.

An image of your handlebar would be a big help.

Cheers
Miele Man is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 03:36 PM
  #14  
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 43,586
Likes: 1,380
From: NW,Oregon Coast

Bikes: 8

Friction Sun tour Bar end shifters have been fine with my 7 speed drive train rears ..
Friction/power ratchet

straight bars the thumb shifter is the way to go ..


New 10 speed' is all 10 on the cassette .. Old '10 speed' was 5 on the back 2 on the front
'21 speed' is 7 in the back 3 in the front.. ( 7 in the space of standard 6 )

a new '10 speed' with a triple crank would be a "30 speed " [10 in the space, of 8]


V can be the French 'vitesses' same thing as "speeds"
fietsbob is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 04:27 PM
  #15  
Clark W. Griswold
10 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 18,291
Likes: 6,639
From: ,location, location

Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26

You might want to upgrade the bike. Generally bikes like that have lower end components and aren't worth putting a bunch of money in. If it were an older 7 speed bike with Dura Ace, Ultegra/600, 105 in the road range or XT, Deore, LX in the mountain range I would say you might put money towards it and me I would run it on friction unless I could find some old shifter that were in good shape for not too much coin.

If you wanted Bar End shifters you can get the Ultegra 8 speed, Dura Ace 9, 10 or 11 speed (some are indexed left meaning you can only run 2X front and some are friction based meaning you can run 3x) or ZIPP Vuka R2C 10 speed (two different version one is for SRAM and one for Shimano) and Microshift has some in 8-11 for Shimano derailleurs (some can be run on friction) SRAM has 10 and 11 speed shifters and also some in R2C (return to center) but I don't think can be run on friction and are for SRAM Derailleurs. Campagnolo also has bar end shifters also in 10 and 11 speeds and are for Campy derailleurs. You can also find some friction ones such as the Silver Shifters from Rivendell Bikes.

You can also find some vintage or NOS stuff on the electronicBays or bikerecyclery.com.

All of that could but put on a modern drop bar road bike but you would need to pay your favorite local shop to install them and then you would probably want to sell the "Brifters" that came on it and also add some drop bar brake levers like the S500s from SRAM which look nice and feel nicer. TRP, Cane Creek, Tektro also do some decent ones but my faves are from SRAM (no matter how much Shimano blue courses through my veins I will always like SRAM brake levers are better)
veganbikes is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 05:00 PM
  #16  
dksix's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,616
Likes: 4
From: North East Tennessee

Bikes: Basso Luguna, Fuji Nevada

What bike are you needing these for? The reason I ask it I'm wondering if you have one of those drop bar bikes what have the twist shifters. That's the only reason I could think of to be trying to go from twist to bar end shifters.
dksix is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 06:53 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 4,628
Likes: 943
From: Ontario, Canada

Bikes: iele Latina, Miele Suprema, Miele Uno LS, Miele Miele Beta, MMTB, Bianchi Model Unknown, Fiori Venezia, Fiori Napoli, VeloSport Adamas AX

Originally Posted by dksix
What bike are you needing these for? The reason I ask it I'm wondering if you have one of those drop bar bikes what have the twist shifters. That's the only reason I could think of to be trying to go from twist to bar end shifters.
A friend had a Canadian Tire dropbar bike that used Revo Shifters. The bar was in three pieces. Left hand piece slid through a stiffener/reinforcing sleeve and over the right hand bar section until a hole in everything lined up. Then a bolt and nut was used to keep the assembly together. This 3 pieces steel bar was the same diameter as a normal steel dropbar. i was wondering if this is what the OP has because if it is the bar end shifters might NOT fit inside the handlebar.

Cheers
Miele Man is offline  
Reply
Old 01-24-16 | 07:09 PM
  #18  
Banned.
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 195
Likes: 1
From: south of the Great Lakes

Bikes: The Kona

OP, the revoshifts for 7-speed (yes, you have to match the labeled number of speeds for shifters with the number of gears you have front & rear, no cross-matching) are just about as good as it gets for 7-speed bikes. There ARE triggers out there, they're pretty cheap, but you won't see much improvement. What you will realize is the difference between twist and trigger shifting.
CrippledKonaBoy is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
3speed
Bicycle Mechanics
17
07-11-15 08:04 AM
ICEN
General Cycling Discussion
28
12-12-14 03:41 PM
bres dad
Bicycle Mechanics
7
08-15-13 04:33 AM
dgsca
Bicycle Mechanics
10
10-24-10 09:33 PM
glittermoomin
Bicycle Mechanics
7
01-22-10 07:35 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.