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Old 08-11-17, 07:11 PM
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I havent picked up a Bicycling magazine in a long time. But in my youth it was a great magazine. Really shows how things have changed. All the gadgetry available today. The super bikes made of carbon fiber.

Typical articals in Bicycling in the 70's. Make your own panniers out of plastic 5 gal gas cans. Sew your own handlebar bag. Twill tape for handlebar tape. Catching up with world traveler Ian Hibell. Technical know how from Fred Delong. Great stuff.

And very few racing articles. Cyclists were into touring and riding centuries on their Peugeot UO-8 or Raleigh Grand Prix. Riding in their cutoff jeans and t-shirts And I cant remember seeing anyone wearing a helmet ('cept racers) in Bicycling magazine. No one wore helmets and it was great to ride with the wind in your really long hair. And it was all about the experience not the equipment. Good times, good times
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
The Vatican called and they have you on the short list for beatification. I hear they are thinking "St Ryanbent the Stingy"

I probably wouldn't spend that kind of money either but that's because I wouldn't wear bibs...childhood trauma from having to wear a girl's PE uniform and I don't see how do you go to the bathroom in those things. But I don't have too much problem paying for bicycling cloths because I consider them to be a very good value. I have 25 year old shorts and jerseys that see constant use and are constantly laundered. I paid $60 to $80 for them which works out to an absolutely crippling $3.20 per year. The horror!
Never worn bibs, likely never will, but not because of the issues. Otherwise, this, this and this.

I;ve got bike shorts and jereys that are well over a decade old. All in fine condition, still. Compare that with the tops from the equivalent of teh US big box store that have lasted two years, if that, and have pulled threaded all over them.

This thread just confirms for me that there are mean and nasty people in cycling as well as elsewhere. Just going to say: It's not our fault.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
go on.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
In the new Bicycling magazine in an article on shorts, we are informed that a $250 pair of bibs are wonderful. IMO for that price they should be able to clean your house and mow the lawn. IMO that is a really insane price, but I guess if you have that kind of money go for it. In the mean time my all up riding gear cost approx $30. I may not be with it, and really pretty, but think of all the things I can buy with the $220 still in my wallet.
Thank you so much. You are clearly superior to those frivolous fools who have different values than you do. I'm shocked that there has never, ever been a thread on BF pointing out the virtues of using the cheapest possible equipment!
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Sometimes I buy Bicycling! magazine when I know I will be trapped in the middle seat of an airplane for six hours. It almost takes the place of the erstwhile SkyMall catalogue (RIP) in terms of infotainment.
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Originally Posted by bbbean
Thank you so much. You are clearly superior to those frivolous fools who have different values than you do. I'm shocked that there has never, ever been a thread on BF pointing out the virtues of using the cheapest possible equipment!
Personally I have always suggested going with the most bang for the buck. Most things come in at least 3 levels or more. By the time you get to mid level, paying more only usually get you name and snob appeal.
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I have sometimes wondered if social-related childhood trauma sometimes plays a role in channeling a person to more intellectual pursuits, such as engineering. How did you feel about that?
Nay. I was a bad student all through school. I'm a mostly smart guy but I was taught at a very early age that my social standing in my little town wasn't high enough to warrant me being treated as a smart person. I learned early on how to be stupid and it carried all the way through high school even when I moved to city were the population in my high school was larger than the podunk town I grew up in.

It took 4 years of working crap jobs before I decided that there had to be a better way. It took another 7 years to graduated from college because I had a whole lot of catching up to do. I regretted every minute of that 4 years of crap jobs, not a single minute of college and few minutes of my career afterward. I've been doing it for 37 years now and it's still mostly fun.

I tell people that every job is just shoving horse crap (using an earthier term). Your job is to find the pony in the pile of horse crap. My job just happens to have a higher ratio of ponies to horse crap than most jobs.
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Originally Posted by jefnvk

Oh come on, you can't just throw that out there and not follow up!
Let's just say that it was a small town, small minded, sadistic drill sergeant wannabe PE teacher who had a supply of too small girls one piece PE uniforms that he loved making boys who forgot their PE clothes wear. On the plus side, you never forgot your PE uniform again. On the other side, in a town of 1500 no one let you forget it...for years afterward.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
...childhood trauma from having to wear a girl's PE uniform and I don't see how do you go to the bathroom in those things.
Originally Posted by indyfabz
Go on.
Originally Posted by wphamilton
I have sometimes wondered if social-related childhood trauma sometimes plays a role in channeling a person to more intellectual pursuits, such as engineering. How did you feel about that?
And finally, what is your relationship with your mother?

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Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
And finally, what is your relationship with your mother?
I never had a problem with my mother. Small town, small minded, sadistic drill sergeant wannabe PE teachers on the other hand...

As well as small town, small minded people in general. My town's name is Fowler. Their town motto is "Non est locus iste..."
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
i suddenly feel an uncontrollable urge to hop the acela express up to nyc to visit the rapha store. Maybe i will have dinner at eataly afterwards.


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Originally Posted by jefnvk
Lemme know if there is a clearance rack. I don't mind buying nice things off the clearance rack.
They are having a sale on line right now, but the stuff still isn't cheap.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
They are having a sale on line right now, but the stuff still isn't cheap.
Yea..."on sale" a cotton t-shirt is $40US plus S/H. LOL.


Even at their sale prices...I still haven't bought comparable items from competitors.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
links to the magazine site are DNF with an ad blocker .. they , dependent, have advertisers pushing bling kit.
The actual magazine is pretty cheap. I enjoy it for what it is, having no illusions about owning any number of superbikes or supergear within. Dang some of those bikes are sure purdy though..
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It's a good thing you aren't reading GQ. How much do you think it costs to be a well-outfitted businessman?

My last job was coaching executives in the financial industry, and I had to dress the part. At my last meeting (which as memorable, because I left my job the next day) I wore a new bespoke suit (Zegna Super 120's wool), which cost about $2000, a Borrelli dress shirt, $400, Brioni tie, $250, Hermes pocket square, $200, bespoke shoes by John Lobb, $2000, Prada belt, $300. Add a good watch and cufflinks, which cost as much as all the above clothes put together. $200 for a hair cut, and $80 for a manicure.

Now I work from home, and can dress how I like. Gap cargo shorts, $15, a Uniqlo t-shirt, $8, and a pair of Reef sandals, $35. To be "seriously outfitted" in e-commerce, I would add a $40 pair of jeans, and a $80 pair of New Balance shoes. I cut my hair when it gets long enough to make my face itchy, the QB house nearby charges only $10, and cut my nails when they get long enough to interfere with my guitar playing.

The money I save on clothes and hygiene can now be spent on guitars and bike parts.
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Somehow the person paying for a magazine that is 70% advertisements is baffled by people spending money on items with actual utility.
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Scan it on the rack, then put it back.these days read it in the 70s, @ public library..
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Originally Posted by Sangetsu
It's a good thing you aren't reading GQ. How much do you think it costs to be a well-outfitted businessman?

My last job was coaching executives in the financial industry, and I had to dress the part. At my last meeting (which as memorable, because I left my job the next day) I wore a new bespoke suit (Zegna Super 120's wool), which cost about $2000, a Borrelli dress shirt, $400, Brioni tie, $250, Hermes pocket square, $200, bespoke shoes by John Lobb, $2000, Prada belt, $300. Add a good watch and cufflinks, which cost as much as all the above clothes put together. $200 for a hair cut, and $80 for a manicure.
My 21 yr old son was going on a job interview. $200 suit, $40 shoes, pocket square my wife made out of scrap fabric. He was waiting on the train station platform. He said everyone was staring at him. I told him, "Benj, you look fantastic. Wearing a stylish "skinny" suit. You're tall, great physique. All those guys waiting for the train are jealous. In expensive suits trying to look as good as you and not pulling it off."
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Yea..."on sale" a cotton t-shirt is $40US plus S/H. LOL.


Even at their sale prices...I still haven't bought comparable items from competitors.
Have you seen what their jeans cost?
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I love all the pithy comments about overpriced goods from guys riding clunkers that cost more than the price of feeding a small village for a year
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
Can I ride a bike in regular street clothes, no special bike outfit? Of course! Do I? Frequently! But I also wear cycling-specific clothes when called for. Many are just more comfortable and suited to cycling than regular streetwear.
I've rode probably two dozen times in a suit and tie in the past 4 years. Only 1.5 miles each way - I drop my car off at the dealership for service, ride to the office, ride back later to pick it up. And no, never wore my one expensive Joseph Aboud -save that for the high and mighty client meetings - so like once in 2 years. OTOH, I wouldn't do it on a Century, but my Chaps and Arrow suits and separates from Kohl's are just fine cycling clothes, with a leg band to keep the cuff out of the chain. And NEVER pay full price at Kohls - everything pretty much moves to the bargain racks in about 3 months. Can't beat a sportscoat that ends up costing something like $14 after clearance, Kohl's cash, Kohl's rewards and an extra 30% off for using Kohl's charge. Well, maybe the Arrow dress shirt that cost me $0.60 - original $30.
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Back in the 80s I was subscribed to Bicycling magazine. It was great, and I looked forward to each issue. Like most magazines it is now little more than a flashy picture book for people that have the attention span of a rutabaga.
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"They seek him here, they seek him there
His clothes are loud, but never square
It will make or break him so he's got to buy the best
'Cause he's a dedicated follower of fashion

And when he does his little rounds
'Round the boutiques of London Town
Eagerly pursuing all the latest fads and trends
'Cause he's a dedicated follower of fashion

Oh yes he is (oh yes he is), oh yes he is (oh yes he is)
He thinks he is a flower to be looked at
And when he pulls his frilly nylon panties right up tight
He feels a dedicated follower of fashion

Oh yes he is (oh yes he is), oh yes he is (oh yes he is)
There's one thing that he loves and that is flattery
One week he's in polka-dots, the next week he is in stripes
'Cause he's a dedicated follower of fashion


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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Have you seen what their jeans cost?
No, how much?

Do YOU think a cyclist receives fair value or anything special at the asking price for Ralpha or similar boutique labeled jeans?
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