Does biking help with pull ups?
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Does biking help with pull ups?
I have a pull up bar in my office. I do them intermittently. I also do some gym rock wall climbing. But since I've been biking more, I feel like that has improved my pull up count the most.(even more than rock climbing). Or is it just placebo?
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How much weight has the OP dropped from cycling? Is he using a handcycle or pedaling with his arms? So many questions, so few valid reasons to ask them...
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Since I started bike commuting I've actually gained 1 lb from 129ish to 130ish. I hope it's muscle. My legs do look slightly bigger. Regular road bike with weekend mountain biking, but no hand pedaling.
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Eating fewer burritos might help
Not saying I would ever do that but...
Cycling is not a major upper body sport. You see a lot of jacked quads and legs but our upper bodies not so much (though people do upper body work and it is not to say we are all the same).
Granted I hate pull ups and push ups and sit ups and sometimes UPS (but usually because they forget to come back to pick up the package they didn't have space for
) Now burrito curls and competitive napping I can get down with.
Not saying I would ever do that but...Cycling is not a major upper body sport. You see a lot of jacked quads and legs but our upper bodies not so much (though people do upper body work and it is not to say we are all the same).
Granted I hate pull ups and push ups and sit ups and sometimes UPS (but usually because they forget to come back to pick up the package they didn't have space for
) Now burrito curls and competitive napping I can get down with.
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You use your upper body to balance yourself.You really notice this effect if you have your touring bike overloaded and climbing a hill you will start to snake up the hill at slow speeds .When you are snaking down the road you have to constantly pull up on the bars to balance yourself and that wears you out big time in a hurry .Touring bikes have longer wheel bases to keep you in a straight line for this reason.You will notice bikes with racing geometries will snake down the road at slow speeds but become more stable when you get up to speed.Racers who drive aggressively and fast do not notice this because the bike is always balanced
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In my experience, I have gained some upper arm strength from riding everyday. I am riding over a bridge everyday, twice a day, plus many other hilly sections. I carry a pannier on one side that I usually have pretty loaded so it definitely adds some significant weight to the bike that I have to pull up the hills.
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Cyclists arent traditionally known to have the most developed of upper bodies.
And 1 pound of weight difference?...thats just daily variation.
And 1 pound of weight difference?...thats just daily variation.
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As someone who is OCD I check my weight daily after I return from work. Yes there is variation, especially after I binge on the weekend. But weight always zeroes out to 130 as the week goes by. Where as a year ago before bike commuting I would consistently zero out at 129. And this year I haven’t been ordering as much as we generally over order so I primarily work on leftovers.
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Cycling does improve your core strength which is your abs and back muscles. In fact doing core training is also a good way to improve your cycling. And I know BMX is very upper body intensive with lifting up to do bike jumps etc so I imagine MTB is the same way. I think the combination of the two is helping your pull ups.
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Thanks. He was a beast in this clip. I'm not sure if he could do a ton of pull ups, but he certainly could fly up a mountain compared to the best of the best.
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your core has probably gotten stronger.
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NO it doesn`t...Cycling and pull ups are a completely different exercise, different movement pattern. Pulling on a bicycle handlebars is not the same as pulling your entire bodyweight up on a pull up bar...The only way to get better at pull ups is to do train pull ups more often.
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NO it doesn`t...Cycling and pull ups are a completely different exercise, different movement pattern. Pulling on a bicycle handlebars is not the same as pulling your entire bodyweight up on a pull up bar...The only way to get better at pull ups is to do train pull ups more often.
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So when I was in high school I could do a max of 25. 30 years later, I get a pull up bar for my kids. I do mini competitions with them. On the best day I could throw up 14 and I would literally feel like throwing up after the attempt. Despite doing indoor bouldering and occasional pull ups for a year, that max doesn't budge. I stop bouldering/pullups after getting a left frozen shoulder. COVID hits. I did PT home band exercises for 6 months. More importantly, I also pick up commute cycling(20 mi rt per day). Shoulder is better. Restarted pullups 4 months ago with 5-7 reps of 5-7 pullups. The interval is scattered throughout the day depending how busy it is at work. Last week I attempted a max. 22. I can see adding 2 maybe 3 to my previous max, but not 8. My conclusion is it has to be the biking.
What are your PT band exercises?
And you don't think your DAILY MULTIPLE SETS of pull ups aren't what's causing your max to increase???
Yes, I'm pretty sure you're looking at the wrong place for your improvement.
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yes if you loose weight , but direct muscle use i highly doubt it , maybe it increases your ability to absorb the pain and move the lactic acid around , i do think that pull ups will allow you to create a more solid upper body position on the bike allowing you to loose less watts when you are thrashing the bike during high efforts !
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yes if you loose weight , but direct muscle use i highly doubt it , maybe it increases your ability to absorb the pain and move the lactic acid around , i do think that pull ups will allow you to create a more solid upper body position on the bike allowing you to loose less watts when you are thrashing the bike during high efforts !
I believe when muscle failure happens, it's not because of the build up of lactic acid. It's because it's run out of ATP. But if the liver with biking has increased the biochemical machinery to convert serum lactate back to glucose, this glucose can then be readily available for more pull ups. So when I get to 14-15, my biceps, traps, and lats fatigue. I can hold on and rest in between each of the last 8 till my grip can no longer be maintained. I'm convinced this is due to biking. Before the biking, I did similar reps(plus more climbing) which did not move the needle on the max#.
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Certainly something is helping that specific fitness, but you'd have to explain how cycling works the lats in any meaningful way. I can't imagine it. Biceps, maybe (but not much). But there's no lats involved no matter how much you pull on the handlebars from a sitting or standing position.
What are your PT band exercises?
And you don't think your DAILY MULTIPLE SETS of pull ups aren't what's causing your max to increase???
Yes, I'm pretty sure you're looking at the wrong place for your improvement.
What are your PT band exercises?
And you don't think your DAILY MULTIPLE SETS of pull ups aren't what's causing your max to increase???
Yes, I'm pretty sure you're looking at the wrong place for your improvement.







